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Big data, risk, and predictive analysis drive use of cloud-based ITSM, says panel

Posted By Dana L Gardner, 24 hours ago

This BriefingsDirect IT operations innovation panel discussion focuses on the changing role of IT service management (ITSM) in a hybrid computing world.

As IT systems, resources, assets, and information are more scattered across more enterprise locations and devices -- as well as across various cloud service environments -- how can IT leaders hope to know where their "stuff" is, who’s using it, how to secure it, and then accurately pay for it?

Better than ever, it turns out. Advanced software asset management (SAM) methods can efficiently enforce compliance, reduce audit risk, cut costs, and enhance end-user productivity -- even as the complexity of IT itself increases.

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We'll hear from four IT leaders about how they have improved ITSM despite such challenges, and we'll learn how the increased use of big data and analytics when applied to ITSM improves IT assets inventory control and management. We'll also hear how a service brokering role can also be used to great competitive advantage, thanks to ITSM-generated information.

To learn more about how ITSM solves multiple problems for IT, we're joined by Charl Joubert, a change and configuration management expert based in Pretoria, South Africa; Julien Kuijper, an expert in asset and license management based in Paris; Patrick Bailly, IT Quality and Process Director at Steria, also based in Paris, and Edward Jackson, Operational System Support Manager at Redcentric, based in Harrogate, UK. The discussion is moderated by me, Dana Gardner, Principal Analyst at Interarbor Solutions.

Here are some excerpts:

Gardner: Let’s talk about modern SAM, software asset management. There seems to be a lot going on with getting more information about software and how it’s distributed and used. Julien, tell us how you're seeing organizations deal with this issue.

Kuijper: SAM has to square quite a complicated circle. One is compliance in a company, compliance with regard to software installation and usage, and also ensuring that while doing this, we must ensure that the software that is entering a company isn't dangerous. It's things like not letting a virus come in, opening threats or complications. Those are three very technical and very factual environments.


But, you also want to please your end-user. If you don’t please your end-user and you don’t give them the ability to work, they're going to be frustrated. They're going to complain about IT. It’s already a complicated enough.

You have to square that circle by implementing the correct processes first, while giving the correct information around how to behave in the end-to-end software lifecycle.

Gardner: And asset management when it comes to software is not small, there are some very big numbers -- and costs -- involved.

Kuijper: It’s actually a very inconvenient truth. An audit from a publisher or a vendor can easily reach 7 or 8 digits, and a typical company has between 10 and 50 publishers. So, at 7 digits per publisher, you can easily do the math. That’s typically the financial risk.

You also have a big reputation risk. If you don’t pay for software and you are caught, you end up being in the press. You don’t want your company, your branding, to be at that level of exposure.

You have to bring this risk to the attention of IT leaders at the CIO level, but they don’t really want to hear that, because it costs a lot. When they hear this risk, they can't avoid investment, and the investment can be quite large as well.

Typically, if this investment is reaching five percent of your overall yearly software spending, you're on the right level. It’s a big number, but still it’s worth investing.

But you have to compare this investment with regard to your overall software spending. Typically, if this investment is reaching five percent of your overall yearly software spending, you're on the right level. It’s a big number, but still it’s worth investing.

Coming with this message to IT management and getting the ear of a person who is interested in the topic and then getting the investment authorization, you've gone through half the journey. Implementation afterward will be defining your processes, finding the right tool, implementing it, and running it.

Gardner: When it comes to value to the end-user, by having an understood, clearly-defined process in place allows them to get to the software they want, make sure they can use it, and look for it on a sanctioned list, for example. While some end-users might see this as a hurdle, I think it enables them eventually to get the tools they need when they need them.

Smart communication

Kuijper: Right. At the beginning, every end-user will see all those SAM processes as a burden or a complication. So you have to invest a lot in communication, smart communication, with your company and make people understand that it’s everyone’s responsibility to be [software license] compliant and also that it can help in recovering money.

If you do this in a smart way, and the process has a delivery time not longer than three days, then you're good. You have to ensure, of course, that you have a software catalog that is up-to-date, with an easy access to your main titles. All those points from the end-to-end software lifecycle are implemented -- from software tool, then software delivery, then software re-usage, software, and also disposal. When all this is lean, then you’ve made your journey. Then, the software lifecycle process will not be seen any more as a pain, but it will be seen as a business-enabler.

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Gardner: Now, asset management doesn’t just cover the realm of software. It includes hardware, and in a network environment, that can be very large numbers of equipment and devices, endpoints as well as network equipment.

Edward at Redcentric, tell us about how you see the management of assets through the lens of a network.

Jackson: We have more than 10,000 devices in management from a multitude of vendors and we use asset management in terms of portfolio management, managing the models, the versions, and the software.


We also have a configuration management tool that takes the configurations of these devices and runs them against compliance. We can run them against a gold or a silver build. We can also run them against security flaws. It gives us an end-to-end management.

All of this feeds into our ITSM product and then also it feeds into things like the configuration management data base (CMDB). So we have a complete end-to-end knowledge of the software, the hardware, and the services that we're giving the customer.

Gardner: Knowing yourself and your organization allows for that lifecycle benefit that Julien referred to. Eventually, that gives you the freedom to manage and extend those benefits into things like helpdesk support, even IT operations, where the performance can be maintained better.

Jackson: Yes, that's 360-degree management from hardware being delivered on-site, to being discovered, being automatically populated into the multitude of support and operational systems that we use, and then into the ITSM side.

If you don’t get it right from the start and you don’t have the correct models defined for example a Cisco device or the correct OS version on that device, one perhaps where it has security flaws, then you run the risk of deploying a vulnerable service to the customer.

Thinking about scale

Gardner: Looking at the different types of tools and approaches, this goes beyond thinking about assets alone. We're thinking also about scale. Tell us about your organization, and why the scale and ability to manage so many devices and information is important?

Jackson: Being a managed service provider (MSP), we have about 1,000 external customers, and each one of those has a tailored service, ranging from voice, storage, to data, and cloud. So we need to be able to manage these services that are contained within the 10,000 plus devices that we have.

We need to understand the service end-to-end. So there’s quite bit of service level management in there. It all ties down to having the correct kind of vendor, the correct kind of service mapping, and information needs to be accurate in the configuration items (CIs), so support can utilize this information.

If we have an incident that is automatically generated on the management platforms, it goes into the ITSM platform. We can create an effective customer list within, say, five minutes of the network outage and then email or SMS the customer pretty much directly.

We need to understand the service end-to-end. So there’s quite bit of service level management in there.

There’s more ways of doing it, but it’s all due to having a tight control on the assets that are out there in the field, having an asset management tool that can actually control that, and being able to understand the topology of the network and where everything lies. This gives us the ability to create relationships between these devices and have hierarchical logical and physical entities.

Gardner: You have confidence that you work with tools and platforms that can handle that scale?

Jackson: All the tools that we have are pretty much carrier-grade. So we can scale a lot more than the 10,000 devices that we currently have. If you set it up and plan it right, it doesn’t really matter how many devices you have in management. You have to have the right processes and structure to be able to manage them.

Gardner: We've talked about software, hardware, and networks. Nowadays, cloud services, microservices, and APIs are also a big part of the mix. IT consumes them, they make value from them, and they extend that value into the organization.

Let’s go to Patrick at Steria. How are you seeing in your organization an evolution of ITSM into a service brokering role? And does the current generation of ITSM tools and platforms give you a road to that service brokering capacity?

Extending services

Bailly: What’s needed for becoming a service broker that is we need to offer the ability to extend the current service that we have to the services that are available today in the cloud.


To do that, we need to extend the capability of our framework. Today, our framework has been designed in order to run the operation on behalf of our customers, to run the operation on the customer side, or the operation on our data center, but more or less, traditionally IT. The current ITSM framework is able to do that.

What we're facing is that we have customers who want to add short-term [cloud capacity]. We need to offer that capability. What's very important is to offer one interface toward the customers, and to integrate across several service providers at the same time.

Gardner: Tell us a bit about Steria. You're a large organization, 20,000 employees, and in multiple countries.

Bailly: We're an IT service provider, and we manage different kinds of services from infrastructure management, application management, business process outsourcing, system integration, etc., all over Europe. Today, we're leveraging the capabilities that we have today in India and in Poland.

Gardner: Now, we've looked at what ITSM does. We haven’t dug into too much about where it’s going next in terms of what analysis of this data can bring to the table.

Charl, tell us, please, about how you see the use of analytics improving what you've been doing in your setting. How do baseline results from ITSM, the tools we have been talking about, improve when you start to analyze that data, index it, cleanse it, and get at the real underlying information that can then be turned into business benefits?

Joubert: Looking at inadequacies of your processes is really the start of all of this. The moment you start scratching at the vast amount of information you have, you start seeing the errors of your ways, and ways and opportunities to correct them.


It's really an exciting time in ITSM. We now have the ability to start mining this magnitude of information that’s being locked inside attachments in all of these ITSM solutions. We can now start indexing all that unstructured data and using it. It’s a fantastic time to be in IT.

Gardner: Give me an example of where you've seen this at work -- maybe a helpdesk environment. How can you immediately get benefits from starting to analyze systems and IT information?

Million interactions

Joubert: In the service desk I'm involved in, we have about a total of a million interactions over the past few years. What we've done with big data is index the categorization of all these interactions.

With tools from HP, Smart Analytics and Smart Ticketing, we're able to predict the categorization of these interactions to a accuracy of about 84 percent at the moment. This assists the service desk agents to more accurately get the correct information to the correct service teams the first time, with fewer errors in escalation, which in turn leads to greater customer satisfaction.

Gardner: Julien, where does the analysis of what you're doing with software asset management, for example, play a role? Where do you see it going?

Kuijper: SAM is already quite complex on-premise and we all know today that the IT world is moving to the cloud, and this is the next challenge of SAM, because the whole point of the cloud is that you don’t know where your systems are.

However, the licensing models, as they are today, refer to CPU, to on-premise, to physical assets. Understanding how you can adapt your licensing model to this new concept -- not that new anymore now -- this new concept of cloud is something to which even the software publishers and vendors have not really adapted their model.

This is the next challenge of SAM, because the whole point of the cloud is that you don’t know where your systems are.

You also have to face some vendors or publishers who are not willing to adapt their model, especially to be able to audit specific customers and get more revenue. So, on one hand, you have to implement the right processes and the right tools, which are now going to navigate in a very complex environment, very difficult to scan, very difficult to analyze. At the same time, you have to update all your contracts, and sometime, this will not be possible.

Some vendors will have a very easy licensing model if you are implementing their software in their own cloud environment, but in another cloud environment, in a competitor, they might make this journey quite complicated for you.

So this will be complex and will be resolved by correct data to analyze and also some legal workforce and purchasing workforce to try to adapt the contracts.

Gardner: In many ways right now, we never really own software. We only lease it or borrow it and we're charged in a variety of ways. But soon we'll to be going more to that pay-as-you-use, pay-as-you-consume model. What about the underlying information associated with those services? Would logs go along with your cloud services? Should you be able to access that so that you can analyze it in the context of your other IT infrastructure?

Edward, any thoughts as a managed services environment and a management of networks provider. Do you see that as you provide more services that you are providing insight or ITSM metadata along with the services?

IaaS to SaaS

Jackson: Over the past five or six years, the services that we offered pretty much started as infrastructure as a service (IaaS), but it’s now very much a software-as-a-service (SaaS) offering, managed OS, and everything up the technology stack into managed applications.

It's gotten to a point now that we are taking on the managing of bespoke applications that customers wanted to hand over to Redcentric. So not only do we have to understand the technology and the operating systems that go on these platforms in the cloud, but we also have to understand the bespoke software that’s sitting on them and all the necessary dependencies for that.

The more that we invest into cloud technologies, the more complex the service that we offer our customers becomes. We have a multitude of management systems that can monitor all the different elements of this and then piece them together in a service-level model (SLM) perspective. So you get SLM and you get service assurance on top of that.

Gardner: We've recently  heard about HP's IDOL OnDemand and Vertica OnDemand, as part of the Haven OnDemand. They're bringing these analytics capabilities to cloud services, APIs as well. As I understand it, they're going to be applying them to more IT operations issues. So it’s quite possible that we'll start to see a mash up, if you will, between a cloud service, but also the underlying IT information associated with that service.

Let’s go back to Patrick at Steria. Any thoughts about where this combination of ITSM within a cloud environment develops? How do you see it going?

Bailly: The system today exists for traditional IT, and we also have to have the tooling for designing and consuming cloud services. We are running HP Service Manager for traditional IT, legacy IT, and we are running HP Cloud Service Automation (CSA) for managing and operating in the cloud.

We’d like to have a unique way for reconciling the catalog of services that are in Service Manager with the catalog of services that are in CSA, and we would need to have a single, unique portal for doing that.

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What we're expecting with HP Propel is to offer the capabilities to aggregate services that are coming from various sources and to extend that by also offering them. When we're serving this live, we need to offer some additional features like collaboration, incident management, access to the knowledge base, collaboration between service desk and end user, collaboration between end users, etc.

There's also another important point and that is service integration. As a service provider, we will have to deliver and control the services that are delivered by some partners and by some cloud service providers.

In order to do that, we need to have strong integration, not only partnership, but also strong integration. And that integration should be multiple point, meaning that, as soon as we're able to integrate a service provider with this, that integration will be de facto available for our other customers. We're expecting that from HP Propel.

And it’s not only an integration for provisioning service, but it’s also an integration for running the other processes, collaboration, incident management, etc.

Gardner: Patrick mentioned HP Propel, do any of you also have some experience with that or are looking at it to solve other problems?

Single view

Joubert: We're definitely looking at it to give a single view for all our end users. There are various supportive partners in the area where I work. The end user really wants one place to ask for fixing a broken light, to fixing a broken PC, to installing software. It's ease of use that they're looking for. So yes, we are definitely looking at Propel.

Gardner: Let’s take another look to the future. We've heard quite a bit about the Internet of Things (IoT) -- more devices, more inputs, and more data. Do you think that’s something that’s going to be an issue for ITSM, or is that something separate? Do you view that the infrastructure that’s being created for ITSM lends itself to something like managing the IoT and more devices on a network?

Kuijper: For me, as asset management experts and software asset management experts, we have to draw a line somewhere and say, "There is this IoT, and there is some data that we have to say we don’t want to analyze." There are things that are here on the Internet. That’s fine, but too much engineering around that might be over-killing the processes.

We also have to be very careful about false good ideas. I personally think that bring your own device (BYOD) is a false good idea. It brings tremendous issues with regards to who takes care of an asset that is personally owned by a person in a corporate environment, who deals with IT.

Today, it’s perfect. I bring the computer that I'm used to in the office. Tomorrow, it’s broken. Who is going to fix it? When I buy software for this machine, who is going to pay for it and who's going to be responsible for non-compliance?

We also have to be very careful about false good ideas. I personally think that bring your own device is a false good idea.

A CIO might think it’s very intelligent and very advanced to allow people to use what they're used to, but the legal issues behind it are quite complicated. I would say this is a false good idea.

Gardner: Edward, you mentioned that at Redcentric, scale doesn’t concern you. You're pretty confident that the systems that you can access can handle almost any scale. How about that IoT? Even if it shouldn’t be in the purview legally or in terms of the role of IT, it does seem like the systems that have been developed for ITSM are applicable to this issue. Any thoughts about more and more devices on a network?

Jackson: In terms of the scale of things, if the elements are in your control and you have some structure and management around them. You don’t need to be overly concerned. We certainly don’t keep anything in our systems their shouldn’t be in there or doesn’t need to be.

Going forward, things like big data and smart analytics layered on top would give us a massive benefit in how we could deliver our service, and more importantly, how we can manage the service.

Once you have your processes is in place, and can understand the necessity of those processes, you have the structure, and you have the kind of management platform that your sure is going to handle the data, then you can basically leverage things like big data, smart analytics, and data mining to enable you to offer a sophisticated level of support that perhaps your competitors can’t.

Esoteric activity

Gardner: It's occurred to me that the data and the management of that ITSM data is central to any of these major challenges, whether it’s big data, cloud service brokering, management of assets for legal or jurisdiction compliance. ITSM has become much more prominent, and is in the position to solve many more problems.

I'd like to end our conversation with your thoughts along those lines. Charl, ITSM, is it more important than ever? How has it become central?

Joubert: Absolutely. With the advent of big data, we suddenly have the tools to start mining this information and using it to our benefit to give better service to our end-users.

With the advent of big data, we suddenly have the tools to start mining this information and using it to our benefit to give better service to our end users.

Kuijper: ITSM is definitely core to any IT environment, because ITSM is the way to put the correct price tag behind a service. We have service charging and service costing. If you don’t do that correctly, then you basically don’t tell the truth to your customer or to your end user.

If you mix this with the IoT and the possibility to have anything with an IP address available on the network, then you enter into more philosophical thoughts. In a corporate environment, let’s assume you have a tag on your car keys that helps you to find them, and that is linked on the Internet. Those gizmos are happening today.

This brings some personal life information into your corporate environment. What does the corporate environment do about this? The brand of your car is on your car tag. They will know that you bought a brand new car. They will know all this information which is personal. So we have to think about ethics as well.

So drawing a line of what the corporate environment will take care and what is private will be essential in this IOT. When you have your mobile phone, is it personal, it is business? Drawing a line will be very important.

Gardner: But at least we will have the means to draw that line and then enforce the drawing of that line.

Kuijper: Right. Totally correct.

Gardner: Edward, the role of ITSM, bigger than ever or not so much?

Bigger than ever

Jackson: I think it’s bigger than ever. It’s the front end of your business, and the back-end of your business its what the customers see. It’s how you deliver your service, and if you haven’t got it right, then you are not going to be able to deliver the service that a customer expects.

You might have the best products in the world, but if your ITSM systems and your ITSM team aren’t doing what they're supposed to be doing then you know it’s not going to be any good, and the customers are going to say that.

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Gardner: And lastly to Steria, and Patrick, the role of ITSM, bigger than ever? How do you view it?

Bailly: For me, the role of IT Service Management (ITSM) won't change. We did ITSM in the past and we still continue to have that in the future. In order to deliver any service,  we need to have the detailed configuration of the service. We will have to run processes and not have the service change. What will change in the future is the diversity of service providers that we use.

As a service provider, we'll have to walk with a lot of other service providers. So the SLA will be more complex to manage for service management. It will be critical. For the customer, you will have to not only manage — but to govern — that service even if it is provided by lot of service providers.

Gardner: So the complexity goes up, and therefore the need to manage that complexity also needs to go up.

Bailly: What is also very important in license management in the cloud is that very often the return on investment (ROI) of the cloud adoption has ignored or minimized the impact of software cost. When you tell your customers, internal or external, that this xyz cloud offer will cost them that amount of money, you will most likely have to add up 20-30 percent because of the impact of the software cost afterward.

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Rolta AdvizeX experts on hastening big data analytics in healthcare and retail

Posted By Dana L Gardner, Monday, August 24, 2015

The next BriefingsDirect big data innovation case study interview highlights how Rolta AdvizeX in Independence, Ohio creates analytics-driven solutions in the healthcare and retail industries.

We'll also delve into how the right balance between open-source and commercial IT products helps in creating a big-data capability, and we'll further explore how converged infrastructure solutions are hastening the path to big-data business value and cloud deployment options.

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To learn more about how big data can be harnessed for analysis benefits in healthcare and retail, please join me in welcoming our guests, Dennis Faucher, Enterprise Architect at Rolta AdvizeX, and Raajan Narayanan, Data Scientist at Rolta AdvizeX. The discussion is moderated by me, Dana Gardner, Principal Analyst at Interarbor Solutions.

Here are some excerpts:

Gardner: Dennis, what makes big data so beneficial and so impactful for the healthcare and retail sectors?


Faucher: What we're finding at Rolta AdvizeX is that our customers in healthcare and retail have always had a lot of data to make business decisions, but what they're finding now is that they want to make real-time decisions -- but they've never been able to do that. There was too much data, it took too long to process, and maybe the best they could do was get weekly or maybe monthly information to improve their businesses.

We're finding that the most successful healthcare and retail organizations are now making real-time decisions based upon the data that's coming in every second to their organization.

Gardner: So it's more, faster, and deeper, but is there anything specific about healthcare, for example? What are some top trends that are driving that?

Two sides of healthcare

Faucher: You have two sides of healthcare, even if it's a not-for-profit organization. Of course, they're looking for better care for their patients. In the research arms of hospitals, the research arms of pharmaceutical companies, and even on the payer side, the insurance companies, there is a lot of research being done into better healthcare for the patient, both to increase people's health, as well as to reduce long-term costs. So you have that side, which is better health for patients.

On the flip side, which is somewhat related to that, is how to provide customers with new services and new healthcare, which can be very, very expensive. How can they do that in a cost-effective manner?

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So it's either accessing research more cost-effectively or looking at their entire pipeline with big data to reduce cost, whether it's providing care or creating new drugs for their patients.

Gardner: And, of course, retail is such a dynamic industry right now. Things are changing very rapidly. They're probably interested in knowing what's going on as soon as possible, maybe even starting to get proactive in terms of what they can anticipate in order to solve their issues.

Faucher: There are also two sides to retail as well. One is the traditional question of, How can I replenish my outlets in real time? How can I get product to the shelf before it runs out? Then, there's also the traditional side of the cross-sell, up-sell, and what am I selling in a shopping cart, to try to get the best mix of products within a shopping cart that will maximize my profitability for each customer.

Those are the types of decisions our customers in retail have been making for the last 30-50 years, but now they have even more data to help them with that. It's not just the typical sales data that they're getting from the registers or from online, but now we can go into social media as well and get sentiment analysis for customers to see what products they're really interested in to help with stocking those shelves, either the virtual shelves or the physical shelves.

So it's either accessing research more cost-effectively or looking at their entire pipeline with big data to reduce cost.

The second side, besides just merchandising and that market-basket analysis, is new channels for consumers. What are the new channels? If I'm a traditional brick-and-mortar retailer, what are the new channels that I want to get into to expand my customer base, rather than just the person who can physically walk in, but across many, many channels?

There are so many channels now that retailers can sell to. There is, of course, their online store, but there may be some unique channels, like Twitter and Facebook adding a "buy" button. Maybe they can place products within a virtual environment, within a game, for customers to buy. There are many different areas to add channels for purchase and to be able to find out real-time what are people buying, where they're buying, and also what they're likely to buy. Big data really helps with those areas in retail.

Gardner: Raajan, there are clearly some compelling reasons for looking at just these two specific vertical industries to get better data and be more data-driven. The desire must be there, even the cost efficiencies are more compelling than just a few years ago. What’s the hurdle? What prevents them from getting to this goal of proactive, and to the insights that Dennis just described?

Main challenge

Narayanan: One of the main challenges that organizations have is to use the current infrastructure for analytics. The three Vs: velocity, variety and the volume of data serve up a few challenges for organizations in terms of how much data I can store, where do I store it, and do I have the current infrastructure to do that?


In a traditional business, versus the new flash areas, how do you best access the data? How fast you need to access the data is one of the challenges that organizations have.

In addition, there are lots of analytics tools out there. The ecosystem is growing by the day. There are a few hundred offerings out there and they are all excellent platforms to use. So the choice of what kind of analytics I need for the set purpose is the bigger challenge. To identify the right tool and the right platform that would serve my organization needs would be one of the challenges.

The third challenge would be to have the workforce or the expertise to build these analytics or have organizations to address these challenges from an analytical standpoint. This is one of the key challenges that organizations have.

Gardner: Dennis, as an enterprise architect at Rolta AdvizeX, you must work with clients who come at this data issue compartmentalized. Perhaps marketing did it one way; R and D did it another; supply chain and internal business operations may have done it a different way. But it seems to me that we need to find more of a general, comprehensive approach to big data analytics that would apply to all of those organizations.

We work with a company, look at everything they're doing, and set a roadmap for the next three years to meet their short-term and long-term goals.

Is there some of that going on, where people are looking not just for a one-off solution different for each facet of their company, but perhaps something more comprehensive, particularly as we think about more volume coming with the Internet of Things (IoT) and more data coming in through more mobile use? How do we get people to think about big-data infrastructure, rather than big-data applications?

Faucher: There are so many solutions around data analytics, business intelligence (BI), big data, and data warehouse. Many of them work, and our customers unfortunately have many of them and they have created these silos of information, where they really aren’t getting the benefits that they had hoped for.

What we're doing with customers from an enterprise architecture standpoint is looking at the organization holistically. We have a process called Advizer, where we work with a company, look at everything they're doing, and set a roadmap for the next three years to meet their short-term and long-term goals.

And what we find when we do our interviews with the business people and the IT people at companies is that their goals as an organization are pretty clear, because they've been set by the head of the organization, either the CEO or the chief scientist, or the chief medical director in healthcare. They have very clear goals, but IT is not aligned to those goals and it’s not aligned holistically.

Not organized

There could be skunk works that are bringing up some big-data initiatives. There could be some corporate-sponsored big data, but they're just not organized. All it takes is for us to get the business owners and the IT owners in a room for a few hours to a few days, where we can all agree on that single path to meet all needs, to simplify their big data initiatives, but also get the time to value much faster.

That’s been very helpful to our customers, to have an organization like Rolta AdvizeX come in as an impartial third-party and facilitate the coming together of business and IT. Many times, as short as a month, we have the three-year strategy that they need to realize the benefits of big data for their organization.

Gardner: Dennis, please take a moment to tell us a little bit more about AdvizeX and Rolta.

We don’t lead with products. We develop solutions and strategy for our customers.

Faucher: Rolta AdviseX, is an international systems integrator. Our US headquarters is in Independence, Ohio, just outside of Cleveland. Our international headquarters are in Mumbai, India.

As a systems integrator, we lead with our consultants and our technologists to build solutions for our customers. We don’t lead with products. We develop solutions and strategy for our customers.

There are four areas where we find our customers get the greatest value from Rolta AdvizeX. At the highest level are our advisory services, which I mentioned, which set a three-year roadmap for areas like big data, mobility, or cloud.

The second area is the application side. We have very strong application people at any level for Microsoft, SAP, and Oracle. We've been helping customers for years in those areas.

The third of the four areas is infrastructure. As our customers are looking to simplify and automate their private cloud, as well as to go to public cloud and software as a service (SaaS), how do they integrate all of that, automate it, and make sure they're meeting compliance.

The fourth area, which has provided a lot of value for our customers, is managed services. How do I expand my IT organization to a 7x24 organization when I'm really not allowed to hire more staff? What if I could have some external resources taking my organization from a single shift to three shifts, managing my IT 7x24, making sure it’s secure, making sure it’s patched, and making sure it’s reliable?

Those are the four major areas that we deliver as a systems integrator for our customers.

Data scientists

Gardner: Raajan, we've heard from Dennis about how to look at this from an enterprise architecture perspective, taking the bigger picture into account, but what about data scientists? I hear frequently in big data discussions that companies, in this case in healthcare and retail, need to bring that data scientist function into their organizations more fully. This isn't to put down the data analysts or business analysts. What is it about being a data scientist that is now so important? Why, at this point, would you want to have data scientists in your organization?

Narayanan: One of the key functions of a data scientist is to be able to look at data proactively. In a traditional sense, a data analyst's job is reflective. They look at transactional data in a traditional manner, which is quite reflective. Bringing in a data scientist or a data-scientist function can help you build predictive models on existing data. You need a lot of statistical modeling and a lot of the other statistical tools that will help you get there.

This function has been in organizations for a while, but it’s more formalized these days. You need a data scientist in an organization to perform more of the predictive functions than the traditional reporting functions.

We're seeing that in the open-source, big-data tools as well. Customers have embraced open-source big-data tools rapidly.

Gardner: So, we've established that big data is important. It’s huge for certain verticals, healthcare and retail among them. Organizations want to get to it fast. They should be thinking generally, for the long term. They should be thinking about larger volumes and more velocity, and they need to start thinking as data scientists in order to get out in front of trends rather than be reactive to them.

So with that, Dennis, what’s the role of open source when one is thinking about that architecture and that platform? As a systems integrator and as enterprise architect, what do you see as the relationship between going to open source and taking advantage of that, which many organizations I know are doing, but also looking at how to get the best results quickly for the best overall value? Where does the rubber hit the road best with open source versus commercial?

Faucher: That’s an excellent question and one that many of our customers have been grappling with as there are so many fantastic open-source, big-data platforms out there that were written by Yahoo, Facebook, and Google for their own use, yet written open source for anyone to use.

I see a little bit of an analogy to Linux back in 1993, when it really started to hit the market. Linux was a free alternative to Unix. Customers were embracing it rapidly trying to figure out how it could fit in, because Linux had a much different cost model than proprietary Unix.

We're seeing that in the open-source, big-data tools as well. Customers have embraced open-source big-data tools rapidly. These tools are free, but just like Linux back then, the tools are coming out without established support organizations. Red Hat emerged to support the Linux open-source world and say that they would help support you, answer your phone calls, and hold your hand if you needed help.

Now we're seeing who are going to be the corporate sponsors of some of these open-source big data tools for customers who may not have thousands of engineers on staff to support open source. Open-source tools definitely have their place. They're very good for storing the reams and reams, terabytes, petabytes, and more of data out there, and to search in a batch manner, not real time, as I was speaking about before.

Real-time analytics

Some of our customers are looking for real-time analytics, not just batch. In batch, you ask a question and will get the answer back eventually, which many of the open-source, big-data tools are really meant for. How can I store a lot of data inexpensively that I may need access to at some point?

We're seeing that our customers have this mix of open-source, big-data tools, as well as commercial big-data tools.

I recently participated in a customer panel where some of the largest dot-coms talked about what they're doing with open source versus commercial tools. They were saying that the open-source tools was where they may have stored their data lake, but they were using commercial tools to access that data in real time.

They were saying that if you need real-time access, you need a big-data tool that takes in data in parallel and also retrieves it in a parallel manner, and the best tools to do that are still in the commercial realm. So they have both open source for storage and closed source for retrieval to get the real-time answers that they need to run their business.

Gardner: And are there any particular platforms on the commercial side that you're working with, particularly on that streaming, real-time, at volume, at scale equation?

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Faucher: What we see on our side with the partners that we work with is that HP Vertica is the king of that parallel query. It’s extremely fast to get data in and get data out, as well as it was built on columnar, which is a different way to store data than relational is. It was really meant to get those unexpected queries. Who knows what the query is going to be? Whatever it is, we'll be able to respond to it.

Another very popular platform has been SAP HANA, mostly for our SAP customers who need an in-memory columnar database to get real-time data access information. Raajan works with these tools on a daily basis and can probably provide more detail on that, as well as some of the customer examples that we've had.

Gardner: Raajan, please, if you have some insight into what’s working in these verticals and any examples of how organizations are getting their big data payoff, I'd be very curious to hear that.

Narayanan: One of the biggest challenges is to be able to discover the data in the shortest amount of time, and I mean discovery in the sense that I get data into the systems, and how fast I can get some meaningful insights.

Works two ways

It works two ways. One is to get the data into the system, aggregate it into your current environment, transform it so that data is harmonious across all the data sources that provide it, and then also to provide analytics over that.

In a traditional sense, I'll collect tons and tons of data. It goes through reams and reams of storage. Do I need all that data? That's the question that has to be answered. Data discovery is becoming a science as we speak. When I get the data, I need to see if this data is useful, and if so, how do I process it.

These systems, as Dennis alluded to, Vertica and SAP HANA, enable that data discovery right from the get-go. When I get data in, I can just write simple queries. I don't need a new form of analytic expertise. I can use traditional SQL to query on this data. Once I've done that, then if I find the data useful, I can send it into storage and do a little bit more robust analytics over that, which can be predictive or reporting in nature.

A few customers see a lot of value in data discovery. The whole equation of getting in Hadoop as a data lake is fantastic, and these platforms play very well with the Hadoop technologies out there.

Once you get data into these platforms, they provide analytic capabilities that go above and beyond what a lot of the open-source platforms provide.

Once you get data into these platforms, they provide analytic capabilities that go above and beyond what a lot of the open-source platforms provide. I'm not saying that open source platforms don’t perform these functions, but there are lots of tools out there that you need to line up in sequence for them to perform what Vertica or SAP HANA will do. The use cases are pretty different, but nevertheless, these platforms actually enable lot of these functions.

Gardner: Raajan, earlier in our discussion you mentioned the importance of skills and being able to hire enough people to do the job. Is that also an issue in making a decision between an open-source and a commercial approach?

Narayanan: Absolutely. With open source, there are a lot of code bases out there that needs to be learned. So there is a learning curve within organizations.

Traditionally, organizations rely more on the reporting function. So they have a lot of the SQL functions within the organization. To retrain them is something that an organization would have to think about. Then, even to staff for new technologies is something that an organization would have to cater for in the future. So it’s something that an organization would have to plan in their roadmap for big-data growth.

Gardner: Dennis, we can back at the speed and value and getting your big data apparatus up and running, perhaps think about it holistically across multiple departments in your organization, and anticipate even larger scale over time, necessitating a path to growth. Tell us a little bit about what's going on in the market with converged infrastructure, where we're looking at very tight integration between hardware and software, between servers that are supporting workloads, usually virtualized, as well as storage also usually virtualized.

For big data, the storage equation is not trivial. It’s an integral part of being able to deliver those performance requirements and key performance indicators (KPIs). Tell us a bit about why converged infrastructure makes sense and where you're seeing it deployed?

Three options

Faucher: What we're seeing with our customers in 2015 is that they have three options for where to run their applications. They have what we call best-of-breed, which is what they've done forever. They buy some servers from someone, some storage from someone else, some networking from someone else, and some software from someone else. They put it together, and it’s very time-consuming to implement it and support it.

They also have the option of going converged, which is buying the entire stack -- the server, the storage, and the networking -- from a single organization, which will both factory integrate it, load their software for them, show up, plug it in, and you are in production in less than 30 days.

The third option, of course, is going to cloud, whether that’s infrastructure as a service (IaaS) or SaaS, which can also provide quick time to value.

For most of our customers now, there are certain workloads that they are just not ready to run in IaaS or SaaS, either because of cost, security, or compliance reasons. For those workloads that they have decided are not ready for Saas, IaaS, or platform as a service (PaaS) yet, they need to put something in their own data center. About 90 percent of the time, they're going with converged.

Our customers’ data centers are getting so much bigger and more complex that they just cannot maintain all of the moving parts.

Beside the fact that it’s faster to implement, and easier to support, our customers’ data centers are getting so much bigger and more complex that they just cannot maintain all of the moving parts. Thousands of virtual machines and hundreds of servers and all the patching needs to happen, and keeping track of interoperability between server A, network B, and storage C. The converged takes that all away from them and just pushes it to the organizations they bought it from.

Now, they can just focus on their application and their users which is what they always wanted to focus on and not have to focus on the infrastructure and keeping the infrastructure running.

So converged infrastructure has really taken off very, very quickly with our customers. I would say even faster than I would have expected. So it's either converged -- they're buying servers and storage and networking from one company, which both pre-installs it at a factory and maintains it long-term -- or hyper-converged, where all of the server and storage and networking is actually done in software on industry-standard hardware.

For private cloud, a large majority of our customers are going with converged for the pieces that are not going to public cloud.

Gardner: So 90 percent; that’s pretty impressive. I'm curious if that’s the rate of adoption for converged, what sort of rate of adoption are you seeing on the hyper-converged side where it’s as you say software-defined throughout?

Looking at hyper-converged

Faucher: It’s interesting. All of our customers are looking at hyper-converged right now to figure out where it is it fits for them. The thing about hyper-converged, where it’s just industry standard servers that I'm virtualizing for my servers and storage and networking, is where does hyper-converged fit? Sometimes, it definitely has a much lower entry point. So they'll look at it and say, "Is that right for my tier-1 data center? Maybe I need something that starts bigger and scales bigger in my tier-1 data center."

Hyper-converged may be a better fit for tier-2 data centers, or possibly in remote locations. Maybe in doctor's offices or my remote retail branches, they go with hyper-converged, which is a smaller unit, but also very easy to support, which is great for those remote locations.

You also have to think that hyper-converged, although very easy to procure and deploy, when you grow it, you only grow it in one size block. It’s like this block that can run 200 virtual machines, but when I add, I have to add 200 at a time, versus a smaller granularity.

So it’s important to make the correct decision. We spend a lot of time with our customers helping them figure out the right strategy. If we've decided that converged is right, is it converged or is it hyper-converged for the application? Now, as I said, it typically breaks down to for those tier 1 data centers it’s converged, but for those tier 2 data centers or those remote locations, it’s more likely hyper-converged.

But some of the vendors that provide cloud, hyper-converged and converged, have come up with some great solutions for rapid scalability.

Gardner: Again, putting on your enterprise architect hat, given that we have many times unpredictable loads on that volume and even velocity for big data, is there an added value, a benefit, of going converged and perhaps ultimately hyper-converged in terms of adapting to demand or being fit for purpose, trying to anticipate growth, but not have to put too much capital upfront and perhaps miss where the hockey puck is going to be type of thinking?

What is it about converged and hyper-converged that allow us to adapt to the IoT trend in healthcare, in retail, where traditional architecture, traditional siloed approaches would maybe handicap us?

Faucher: For some of these workloads, we just don’t know how they're going to scale or how quickly. We see that specifically with new applications. Maybe we're trying a new channel, possibly a new retail channel, and we don’t know how it’s going to scale. Of course, we don’t want to fail by not scaling high enough and turning our customers away.

But some of the vendors that provide cloud, hyper-converged and converged, have come up with some great solutions for rapid scalability. A successful solution for our customers has been something called flexible capacity. That’s where you've decided to go private cloud instead of public for some good reasons, but you wish that your private cloud could scale as rapidly as the public cloud, and also that your payments for your private cloud could scale just like a public cloud could.

Typically, when customers purchase for a private cloud, they're doing a traditional capital expense. So they just spend the money when they have it, and maybe in three or five years they spend more. Or they do a lease payment and they have a certain lease payment every month.

With flexible capacity, I can have more installed in my private cloud than I'm paying for. Let’s say, there is 100 percent there, but I'm only paying for 80 percent. That way, if there's an unexpected demand for whatever reason, I can turn on another 5, 10, 15, or 20 percent immediately without having to issue a PO first, which might takes 60 days in my organization, then place the order, wait 30 days for more to show up, and then meet the demand.

Flexible capacity

Now I can have more on site than I'm paying for, and when I need it I just turn it on and I pay a bill, just like I would if I were running in the public cloud. That’s what is called flexible capacity.

Another options is the ability to do cloud bursting. Let’s say I'm okay with public cloud for certain application workloads -- IaaS, for example -- but what I found is that I have a very efficient private cloud and I can actually run much more cost-effectively in my private cloud than I can in public, but I'm okay with public cloud in certain situations.

Well, if a burst comes, I can actually extend my application beyond private to public to take on this new workload. Then, I can place an order to expand my private cloud andwait for the new backing equipment to show up. That takes maybe 30 days. When it shows up, I set it up, I expand my on-site capability and then I just turn off the public cloud.

The most expensive use of public cloud many times is just turning it on and never turning it off. It’s really most cost-effective for short-term utilization, whether it’s new applications or development or disaster recovery (DR). Those are the most cost-effective fuses of public cloud.

Gardner: As a data scientist, you're probably more concerned with what the systems are doing and how they are doing it, but is there a benefit from your perspective of going with converged infrastructure or hyper-converged infrastructure solutions? Whether it’s bursting or reacting to a market demand within your organization, what is it about converged infrastructure that’s attractive for you as a data scientist?

One of the biggest challenges would be to have a system that will allow an organization to go to market soonest.

Narayanan: One of the biggest challenges would be to have a system that will allow an organization to go to market soonest. With the big-data platform, there are lots of moving parts in terms of network. In a traditional Hadoop technology, there are like three copies of data, and you need to scale that across various systems so that you have high availability. Big-data organizations that are engaging big data are looking at high availability as one of the key requirements, which means that anytime a node goes down, you need to have the data available for analysis and query.

From a data scientist standpoint, stability or the availability of data is a key requirement. The data scientists, when they build your models and analytic views, are churning through tons and tons of data, and it requires tremendous system horsepower and also network capabilities that pulls data from various sources.

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With the converged infrastructure, you get that advantage. Everything is in a single box. You have it just out there, and it is very scalable. For a data scientist, it’s like a dream come true for the analytic needs. 

Gardner: I'm afraid we are coming up towards the end of our time. Let’s look at metrics of success. How do you know you are doing this well? Do you have any examples, Dennis or Raajan, of organizations that have thought about the platform, the right relationship between commercial and open source, that have examined their options on deployment models, including converged and hyper-converged, and what is it that they get back? How would you know that you are doing this right? Any thoughts about these business or technology metrics of success?

New application

Faucher: I have a quick one that I see all the time. Our customers today measure how long it takes to get a new business application out the door. Almost every one of our customers has a measurement around that. How quickly can we get a business application out the door and functional, so that we can act upon it?

Most of the time it can be three months or six months, yet they really want to get these new applications out the door in a week, just constant improvement to their applications to help either their patients or to help their customers out or get into new channels.

What we're finding is they already have a metric that says, today it takes us three months to get a new application out the door. Let’s change that. Let’s really look at the way we are doing things -- people, process and IT end-to-end -- typically where they are helped through something like an Advizer, and let’s look at all the pieces of the process, look at it all from an ITIL standpoint or an ITSM standpoint and ask how can we improve the process.

There are tons of data sources out there. The biggest challenge would be to integrate all that in the fastest amount of time and make sure that value is realized at the soonest.

And then let’s implement the solution and measure it. Let’s have constant improvement to take that three months down to one month, and down to possibly one week, if it’s a standardized enough application.

So for me, from a business standpoint, it’s the fastest time to value for new applications, new research, how quickly can I get those out the door better than I am doing today.

Narayanan: From a technical standpoint Dana, it’s how much data I can aggregate at the fastest. There are tons of data sources out there. The biggest challenge would be to integrate all that in the fastest amount of time and make sure that value is realized at the soonest. With the given platform, any platform that allows for that would definitely serve the purpose for the analytic needs.

Gardner: Listening to you both, it almost sounds as if you're taking what you can do with big data analytics and applying it to how you do big data analytics, is there some of that going on?

Faucher: Absolutely. It’s interesting, when we go out and meet with customers, when we do workshops and gather data from our customers, even when we do Advizers and we capture data from our customers, we use that. We take all identifying customer information out of it, but we use that to help our customers by saying that of the 2,000 customers that we do business with every year, this is what we are seeing. With these other customers, this is where we have seen them be successful, and we use that data to be able to help our customers be more successful faster.

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The future of business intelligence as a service with GoodData and HP Vertica

Posted By Dana L Gardner, Tuesday, August 18, 2015

The next BriefingsDirect big data innovation case study interview highlights how GoodData expands the realms and possibilities for delivering business intelligence (BI) and data warehousing as a service. We'll learn how they're exploring new technologies to make that more seamless across more data types for more types of users -- all in the cloud.

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To learn the ups and downs of BIaaS, we welcome Jeff Morris, Vice President of Marketing at GoodData in San Francisco, and Chris Selland, Vice President for Business Development at HP Vertica. The discussion is moderated by me, Dana Gardner, Principal Analyst at Interarbor Solutions.

Here are some excerpts:

Gardner: Tell us about GoodData, what you do, and why it's different.

Morris: GoodData is an analytics platform as a service (PaaS). We cover the full spectrum end-to-end use case of creating an analytic infrastructure as a service and delivering that to our customers.


We take on the challenges of collecting the data, whatever it is, structured and unstructured. We use a variety of technologies as appropriate, as we do that. We warehouse it in our multitenant, massively scalable data warehouse that happens to be powered by HP Vertica.

We then combine and integrate it into whatever the customer’s particular key performance indicators (KPIs) are. We present that in aggregate in our extensible analytics engine and then present it to the end users through desired dashboards, reports, or discoverable analytics.

Our business is set up such that about half of our business operates on an internal use case, typically a sales and marketing and social analytic kind of use case. The other half of our business, we call "Powered by GoodData." and those customers are embedding the GoodData technology in their own products. So we have a number of companies creating these customer-facing data products that ultimately generate new streams of revenue for their business.

40,000 customers

We've been at this since 2007. We're serving about 40,000 customers at this point and enjoying somewhere around 2.4 million data uploads a week. We've built out the service such that it's massively scalable. We deliver incredibly fast time to market. Last quarter, about two thirds of our deployments were delivered within 16 weeks or less.

One of the divisions of HP, in fact, deployed GoodData in less than six weeks. They are giving their first set of KPIs and delivering that value to them. What’s making us different in the marketplace right now is that we're eliminating all of the headaches associated with creating your own big data lake-style BI infrastructure and environment.

What we end up doing is affording you the time to focus on the analytics and the results that you gain from them—without having to manage the back-end operations.

Gardner: You're creating analytic applications on datasets that are easily contributed to your platform.

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Morris: Yes, indeed. The datasets themselves also tend to be born in the cloud. As I said, the types of applications that we're building typically focus on sales and marketing and social, and e-commerce related data, all of which are very, very popular, cloud-based data sources. And you can imagine they're growing like crazy.

We see a leaning in our customer base of integrating some on-premise information, typically from their legacy systems, and then marrying that up with the Salesforce, or the market data or social information that they want to integrate and build a full view of their customers -- or a full exposure of what their own applications are doing.

What we end up doing is affording you the time to focus on the analytics and the results that you gain from them—without having to manage the backend operations.

Gardner: So you're providing an excellent example of how HP Vertica forms a cloud-borne analytics platform. Are any of your clients doing this both on-premises and taking advantage of what the cloud does best? Are we now on the vanguard of hybrid BI?

Morris: We're getting there, and there are certainly some industries are more cloud friendly than others right now. Interestingly, the healthcare space is starting to, but they're still nascent. The financial services industry is still nascent. They're very protective of their information. But retailers, e-commerce organizations, technology ISVs, and digital media agencies have adopted the cloud-based model very aggressively.

We're seeing a terrific growth and expansion there and we do see use cases right now where we're beginning to park the cloud-based environment alongside your more traditional analytics environments to create that hybrid effect. Often, those customers are recognizing that the speed at which data is growing in the cloud is driving them to look for a solution like ours.

Gardner: Chris, how unique is GoodData in terms of being all cloud moving toward hybrid?

Special relationship

Selland: GoodData is certainly a very special partner and a very special relationship for us. As you said, Vertica is fundamentally a software platform that was purpose-built for big data that is absolutely cloud-enabled. But GoodData is the best representation of the partner who has taken our platform and then rolled out service offerings that are specifically designed to solve specific problems. It's also very flexible and adaptable.


So, it’s a special partnership and relationship. It's a great proof point for the fact that the HP Vertica platform absolutely was designed to be running in the cloud for those customers who want to do it.

As Jeff said, though, it really varies greatly by industry. A large majority of the customers in our customer advisory board (CAB), which tend to be some of our largest customers and some pretty well-known industries, were saying how they will never put their data in the cloud.

Never is a very long time, but at the same time, there are other industries that are adopting it very rapidly. So there is a rate of change that’s going on in the industry. It varies by size of company, by the type of competitive environment, and by the type of data. And yes, there is a lot of hybridization going on out there. We're seeing more of the hybridization in existing organizations that are migrating to the cloud. There's a lot of new breed companies who started in the cloud and have every intent of staying there.

But there's a lot of dynamism in this industry, a lot of change, and this is a partnership that is a true win-win. As I said, it's a very special relationship for both companies.

Gardner: There's more than just HP Vertica. There's HP Haven, which includes Hadoop, Autonomy, security and applications. Is there a path that you see whereby you can try to be as many things to as many types of customer and vertical industries?

Morris: Absolutely. The HP Haven-style architecture is a vision in a direction that we are going. We do use Hadoop right now for special use cases of expanding and providing structure, creating structure out of unstructured information for a number of our customers, and then moving that into our Vertica-based warehouse.

The beauty of Vertica in the cloud is the way we have set this up and this also helps address both the security and the reliability issues that might be a thought of as issues in the cloud. We're triple clustering each set of instances of our vertical warehouses, so they are always reliable and redundant.

Daily updates

We, like the biggest enterprises out there, are vigilantly maintaining our network. We update our network on behalf of our customers on a daily basis, as necessary. We roll out and maintain a very standardized operating environment, including an open stack-based operating environment, so that customers never need to even care about what versions of the SSL libraries exist or what versions of the VPN exist.

We're taking care of all of that really deep networking and things that the most stalwart enterprise-style IT architects are concerned about. We have to do that, too, and we have to do it at scale for this multi-tenant kind of use-case.

As I said, the architecture itself is very Haven-like, it just happens to be exclusively in the cloud -- which we find interesting and unique for us. As for the Hadoop piece, we don’t use Autonomy yet, but there are some interesting use cases that we are exploring there. We use Vertica in a couple of places in our architecture, not only that central data warehouse, but we also use it as a high-performance storage vehicle for our analytic data marts.

So when our customers are pushing a lot of information through our system, we're tapping into Vertica’s horsepower in two spots. Then, our analytic engine can ingest and deal with those massive amounts of data as we start to present it to customers.

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On the Haven architecture side, we're a wonderful example of where Haven ends up in the cloud. For the applications themselves, the kind of things that customers are creating, might be these hybrid styles where they're drawing legacy information in from their existing on-premise systems. Then, they're gathering up, as I said before, their sales and marketing information and their social information.

The one that we see as a wonderful green field for us is capturing social information. We have our own social analytic maturity model that we describe to customers and partners on how to capitalize on your campaigns and how to maximize your exposure through every single social channel you can think of.

We're very proficient at that, and that's what's really driving the immense sizes of data that our customers are asking for right now. Where we used to talk in tens of terabytes for a big system, we're now talking in the world of hundreds, multiple hundreds of terabytes, for a system. Case by case by case, we're seeing this really take off.

Gardner: Do you have any companies, either named or unnamed, that provide a great use case example of BI as a service?

Where we used to talk in tens of terabytes for a big system, we're now talking in the world of hundreds, multiple hundreds of terabytes, for a system.

Morris: One of our oldest and most dear customers is Zendesk. They have a very successful customer-support application in the cloud. They provide both a freemium model and degrees of for-fee products to their customers.

And the number one reason why their customers upgrade from freemium to general and then general to the gold level of product is the analytics that they're supplying inside of there. They very recently announced a whole series of data products themselves, all powered by GoodData, as the embedded analytic environment within Zendesk.

We have another customer, Service Channel which is a wonderful example of marrying together two very disparate user communities. Service Channel is a facility’s management enterprise resource planning (ERP) application. They bring together the facility managers of your favorite brick-and-mortar retailers with the suppliers who provide those retail facilities service, janitorial services, air-conditioning guy, the plumbers.

Disparate customers

Marrying disparate types of customers, they create their own data products as well, where they are integrating third-party information like weather data. They score their customers, both the retailers as well as the suppliers, and benchmark them against each other. They compare how well one vendor provides service to another vendor and they also compare how much one of the retailers spends on maintaining their space.

Of course, Apple gets incredibly high marks. RadioShack, right now, as they transition their stores, not so much. Service Channel knew this information long before the industry did, because they're watching spend. They, too, are starting to create almost a bidding network.

When they integrated their weather data into the environment, they started tracking and saying, "Apple would like to gain first right of refusal on the services that they need." So if Apple’s air conditioning goes out, the service provider comes in and fixes the air-conditioning sooner than Best Buy and all of their competitors. And they'll bid up for that. So they've created almost a marketplace. As I said before, these data products are really quite an advantage for us.

Gardner: What's coming next?

Morris: We're seeing a number of great opportunities, and many are created and developed by the technologies we've chosen as our platform. We love the idea of creating not only predictive, but prescriptive, types of applications in use cases on top of the GoodData environment. We have customers that are doing that right now and we expect to see them continue to do that.

What I think will become really interesting is when the GoodData community starts to share their analytic experiences or their analytic product with each other. We feel like we're creating a central location where analysts, data scientists, and our regular IT can all come together and build a variety of analytic applications, because the data lives in the same place. The data lives in one central location, and that’s an unusual thing. In most of the industry your data is still siloed. Either you keep it to yourself on-premise or your vendors keep it to themselves in the cloud and on-premise.

But we become this melting pot of information and of data that can be analytically evaluated and processed. We love the fact that Vertica has its own built-in analytic functions right in the database itself. We love the fact that they run our predictive language without any other issue and we see our customers beginning to build off of that capability.

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My last point about the power of that central location and the power of GoodData is that our whole goal is to free time for those data scientists and those IT people to actually perform analytics and get out of the business of maintaining the systems that make analytics available, so that you can focus on the real intellectual capital that you want to be creating.

Identifying trends

Gardner: So, Chris, to cap this off, I think we've identified some trends. We have PaaS for BI. We have hybrid BI. We have cloud data joins and ecosystems that create a higher value abstraction from data. Any thoughts about how this comes together, and does this fit into the vision that you have at HP Vertica and that you're seeing in other parts of your business?

Selland: We're very much only at the front end of the big data analytics revolution. I ultimately don’t think we are going to be using the term "big data" in 10 years.

I often compare big data today to eBusiness 10, 12 years ago. Nobody uses that term anymore, but that was when everything was going online, and now everything is online, and the whole world has changed. The same thing is happening with analytics today.

With a hundred times more data we can actually get 10,000 times more insight. And that's true, but it's not just the amount of data; it's the ability to cross-correlate. That's the whole vision of what Jeff was just talking about that GoodData is trying to do.

We're very much only at the front end of the big data/analytics revolution. I ultimately don’t think we are going to be using the term "big data" in 10 years.

It's the vision of Haven, to bring in all types of data and to be able to look at it more holistically. One of my favorite examples, just to make that concrete, is that there is an airline we were talking to. They were having a customer service issue. They were having a lot of their passengers tweeting angrily about them, and they were trying to analyze the social media data to figure out how to make this stop and how to respond.

In a totally separate part of the organization, they had a predictive maintenance project, almost an Internet-of-things (IoT) type of project, going on. They were looking at data coming off the fleet, and trying to do better job of keeping their flights on time.

If you think about this, you say, "Duh." There was a correlation between the fact that they were having service problems and that the flights were late with the fact that the passengers were angry. Suddenly, they realized that maybe by focusing less on the social data in this case, or looking at that as the symptom as opposed to cause, they were able to solve the problem much more effectively. That's a very, very simple example.

I cite that because it makes real for people that it's when you really start cross-correlating data you wouldn't normally think belong together -- social data and maintenance data, for example -- you get true insights. It's almost a silly simple example, but those types of examples we're going to see much more. The more of this we can do, the more power we are going to get. I think that the front end of the revolution is here.

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HP pursues big data opportunity with updated products, services, developer program

Posted By Dana L Gardner, Tuesday, August 11, 2015

HP today at its Big Data Conference in Boston unveiled a series of new products, services, and programs designed to help organizations better leverage data and analytics.

The company announced:

  • A new release of HP Vertica, called Excavator, that feature data streaming and advanced log file text search to power high-speed analytics on Internet of Things (IoT) data.
  • Broader support for and contributions to open source technologies, including optimized Hadoop performance, integration with the Apache Kafka distributed messaging system, and advancements in Distributed R predictive analytics.
  • The HP Haven Startup Accelerator program, which provides early-stage companies with fast, affordable access to both HP Big Data and Application Delivery Management software and services.

"Big data helps us make more sense of it all, a byproduct of what we do everyday," said Robert Youngjohns, Executive Vice President and General Manager at HP Software, in a keynote address. "Big data solves everyday problems like security, inventory, and empowers workers ... and you can now exploit 100 percent of your data."

Youngjohns said that HP at its HP Protect show in a few weeks will announce how to better mine IT systems analytics to make enterprises more secure.

"Big data changes the game in the idea economy," said Colin Mahony, Senior Vice President and General Manager of Big Data at HP. "Big data is core to all apps, but customized composite analytic applications are coming."

The key question for enterprises is, how can you embed analytics into the role you play in your organization?, said Mahony, adding that, enterprises need to spin up new apps constantly to identify and analyze via context, which they cannot get from packaged apps.

"Developers are the new heroes of the idea economy," said Mahony. "Through our Haven and Haven OnDemand platforms, we are empowering these heroes to transform their business through data, by allowing them to harness the value of all forms of information, rapidly connect and apply open source, and quickly access the tools they need to build winning businesses." [Disclosure: HP Enterprise is a sponsor of BriefingsDirect podcasts.]

Also addressing the keynote audience was recent Turing Award winner Mike Stonebraker, CTO and co-founder of Tamr. He said that the development of the column store database was the most disruptive thing I ever did. "It transformed the market," he said, and lead to the Vertica big data platform that HP acquired in 2011.

But he cautioned against getting caught up in marketing buzz over data science substance. "I’ve been doing big data forever. The buzzword is meaningless, it’s about solving data volume, velocity, and variety problems."

"Analytics is moving to complex analytics, using machine learning and statistics, so you need to get smart at data science," said Stonebraker.


Capabilities in the new version of Vertica, codenamed "Excavator," include:

  • Data-streaming analytics offering native support for the Apache Kafka open-source distributed messaging system to enable organizations to quickly ingest and analyze high-speed streaming data, including IoT, in near real time. This capability delivers actionable insight for a wide range of use cases, including manufacturing process control, supply-chain optimization, healthcare monitoring, financial risk management, and fraud detection.
  • Advanced machine log text search to enable organizations to collect and index large log file data sets generated by systems and business applications, helping IT organizations quickly identify and predict application failures and cyber-attacks, and investigate authorized and unauthorized access.

HP also released a series of solutions designed to enable organizations to combine the innovation of open source with the enterprise-scale, reliability, and security. These include:

"Developers are the new heroes of the Idea Economy."

  • HP Vertica for SQL on Hadoop native file support, bringing significant increase in performance on popular Hadoop formats like ORC and Parquet. Specifically, HP worked collaboratively with Hortonworks to develop a new high-performance access layer that enables SQL queries to run directly on ORC files, resulting in a 5x increase in execution times.
  • HP Vertica Flex Zone Table Library with which HP has open sourced its innovative Flex Table "schema on-need" technology to the global developer community. With this move, organizations will be able to fully harness virtually any form of semi-structured data to meet their unique needs.
  • HP announced its commitment to integrate Vertica with Apache Spark. This will enable accelerated data transfer between Vertica and Spark, allowing organizations to take full advantage of their Spark-based deployments. This future capability will enable the developer community to build their models in Spark and run them in Vertica for high-speed and sophisticated analytics.

Startup Accelerator

HP also unveiled The HP Haven Startup Accelerator, a new program designed to support and expand HP's ecosystem of developers and innovators by making HP Big Data and Application Delivery Management software products accessible to early-stage companies. The program removes traditional barriers for organizations looking to leverage analytics and data to build powerful, differentiated applications. Qualified participants will benefit from the following program components:

  • Free use of the community versions of HP IDOL and HP Vertica with expanded capacity.
  • Premium version of HP IDOL and HP Vertica with attractive pricing
  • HP Application Delivery Management tools including HP Agile Manager, HP LeanFT, and HP LoadRunner.

HP also announced an innovative framework of technology and proven best practices to accelerate the development of next-generation analytical applications. This framework extends the HP Haven Big Data Platform with quick-start visualization, syndicated data feeds, open on-premise and cloud-based APIs. This enables HP Professional Services and HP partners to quickly deliver a range of solutions, such as voice of customer, smart cities, and fraud detection.

"HP is uniquely positioned to help businesses and developers thrive in this new world."

Optimized platforms for big data include traditional HP ProLiant DL380 clusters, purpose-built Apollo 4510, 4530 and 4200 compute and storage servers, and HP's innovative asymmetric Big Data Reference Architecture. These systems enable customers to optimize their big data workloads, delivering the power of Haven to their business.

Availability Planned availability for new HP Haven Big Data offerings and services is set for fall of 2015.

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How eCommerce sites harvest big data across multiple clouds

Posted By Dana L Gardner, Monday, August 10, 2015

The next BriefingsDirect big data innovation thought leadership interview highlights how a consultant helps large ecommerce organizations better manage their big data architectures across cloud environments.

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To learn more about how big data is best architected for the largest web applications, BriefingsDirect sat down with Jimmy Mohsin, Principal Software Architect at Norjimm LLC, a consultancy based in Princeton, New Jersey. The discussion is moderated by me, Dana Gardner, Principal Analyst at Interarbor Solutions.

Here are some excerpts:

Gardner: How are large web applications deciding on the right big data architecture? 

Mohsin: There's a lot of interest in trying to deal with large data volumes, not only large data volumes, but also data that changes rapidly. Now, there are many companies that have very large datasets, some in terabytes, some in petabytes and then they're getting live feeds.

The data is there and it’s changing rapidly. The traditional databases sometimes can’t handle that problem, especially if you're using that database as a warehouse and you're reporting against it.

Basically, we have kind of a moving-target situation. With HP Vertica, what we've seen is the ability to solve that problem in at least some of the cases that I've come across, and I can talk about specific use cases in that regard.

Input/output issues

Gardner: Before we get into a specific use case, I'm interested particularly in some of these input/output issues. People are trying to decide how to move the data around. They're toying with cloud. They're trying to bring data for more types of traditional repositories. And, as you say, they're facing new types of data problems with streaming and real-time feeds.

How do you see them beginning this process when they have to handle so many variables? Is it something that’s an IT architecture, or enterprise architecture, or data architecture? Who's responsible for this, given that it’s now a rather holistic problem?

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Mohsin: In my present project, we ran into that. The problem is that many companies don't even have a well defined data-architecture team. Some of them do. You'll find a lot of companies with an enterprise-architect role and you'll have some companies with a haphazard definition of an architectural group.


Net-net, at least at this point, unless companies are more structured, it becomes a management issue in the sense that someone at the leadership level needs to know who has what domain knowledge and then form the appropriate team to skin this cat.

I know of a recent situation where we had to build a team of four people, and only one was an architect. But we built a virtual team of four people who were able to assemble and collate all the repositories that spanned 15 years and four different technology flavors, and then come up with an approach that resulted in a single repository in HP Vertica.

So there are no easy answers yet, because organizations just aren't uniformly structured.

Gardner: Well, I imagine they'll be adapting, just like we all are, to the new realities. In the meantime, tell me about a specific use case that demonstrates the intensity of scale and velocity, and how at least one architecture has been deployed to manage that?

Mohsin: One of my present projects deals with one of the world's largest retailers. It's eCommerce, online selling. One of the things they do, in addition to their transactions of buying and selling, is email campaign management. That means staying in touch with the customer on the basis of their purchases, their interests, and their profiles.

One of the things we do is see what a certain customer’s buying preferences have been over the past 90 days. Knowing that and the customer’s profile, we can try to predict what their buying patterns will be. So we send them a very tailored message in that regard. In this project, we're dealing with about 150 to 160 million emails a day. So this is definitely big data.

Here we have online information coming into one warehouse as to what's happening in the world of buying and selling. Then, behind the scenes, while that information is being sent to the warehouse, we're trying to do these email campaigns.

This is where the problem becomes fairly complicated. We tried traditional relational database management systems (RDBMS), and they kind of worked, but we ran into a slew of speed and performance issues. That's really where the big-data world was really beneficial. We were able to address that problem in about a seven-month project that we ran.

Gardner: And this was using HP Vertica?

Large organization

Mohsin: We did an evaluation. We looked at a few databases, and the corporate choice was Vertica. We saw that there is a whole bunch of big-data vendors. The issue is that many of the vendors don't have any large organizations behind them, and Vertica does. The company management felt that this was a new big database, but HP was behind it, and the fact that they also use HP hardware helped a lot.

They chose Vertica. The team I was managing did a proof of concept (POC) and we were able to demonstrate that Vertica would be able to handle the reporting that is tied to the email campaign management. We ran a 90 day POC, and the results were so positive that there was an interest in going live. We went live in about another 90 days, following a 90-day POC.

Gardner: I understand that Vertica is quite versatile. I've heard of a number of ways in which it's used technically. But this email campaign problem almost sounds like a transactional issue, a complex event processing issue, or a transfer agent scaling issue. How does big data, Vertica, and analytics come to bear on this particular problem?

Mohsin: It's exactly what you say it is. As we are reporting and pushing out the campaigns, new information is coming in every half hour, sometimes even more frequently. There's a live feed that's updating the warehouse. While the warehouse is being updated, we want to report against it in real time and keep our campaigns going.

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The key point is that we can't really stop any of these processes. The customers who are managing the campaigns want to see information very frequently. We can’t even predict when they would want their information. At the same time, the transactional systems are sending us live feeds.

The problem we ran into with the traditional RDBMS is that the reporting didn't function when the live feeds were underway. We couldn't run our back-end email campaign reports when new data was coming in.

One of the benefits Vertica has, due to its basic architecture and its columnar design is that it's better positioned to do that. This is what we were able to demonstrate in the live POC, and nobody was going to take our word for it.

The end user said, "Take few of our largest clients. Take some of our clients that have a lot of transactions. Prove that the reports will work for those clients." That's what we did in 30 days. Then, we extended it, and then in 90 days, we demonstrated the whole thing end to end. Following that was the go-live.

Gardner: You had to solve that problem of the live feeds, the rapidity of information. Rather going to a stop, batch process, analyze, repeat, you've gained a solution to your problem.

But at the same time, it seems like you're getting data into an environment where you can analyze it and perhaps extract other forms of analysis, in addition to solving your email, eCommerce trajectory issues. It seems to me that you're now going to have the opportunity to add a new dimension of analysis to what's going on and perhaps we find these transactions more toward a customer inference benefit.

More than a database

Mohsin: One of the things internally that I like to say is that Vertica isn't just a big database, it’s more than just a database. It's really a platform, because you have distributed all, you are publishing other tools. When we adopted it and went live with this technology, we first solved the feeds and speeds problem, but now we're very much positioned to use some of the capabilities that exist in Vertica.

We had Distributed R being one of them, Inference Analysis being another one, so that we can build intelligent reports. To date, we've been building those outside the RDBMS. RDBMS has no role in that. With Vertica, I call it more of a data platform. So we definitely will go there, but that would be our second phase.

As the system starts to function and deliver on the key use cases, the next stage would be to build more sophisticated reports. We definitely have the requirements and now we have the ability to deliver.

Gardner: Perhaps you could add visualization capabilities to that. You could make a data pool available to more of the constituents within this organization so that they could innovate and do experiments. That’s a very powerful stuff indeed.

Is there anything else you can tell us for other organizations that might be facing similar issues around real-time feeds and the need to analyze and react, now that you have been through this on this particular project. Are there any lessons learned for others.

One of the issues in big data at least today is that you can’t find a whole slew of clients who have already gone live and who are in production.

If you're facing transactional issues and you haven't thought about a big-data platform as part of that solution, what do you offer to them in terms of maybe lighting a light bulb in their mind about looking for alternatives to traditional middleware.

Mohsin: Like so many people try to do, we tried to see if anyone else had done this. One of the issues in big data at least today is that you can’t find a whole slew of clients who have already gone live and who are in production.

There are lots of people in development, and some are live, but in our space, we couldn't find anyone who was live. We solved that issue via a quick-hit POC. The big lesson there was that we scoped the POC right. We didn’t want to do too much and we didn’t want to do too little. So that was a good lesson learned.

The other big thing is the data-migration question. Maybe, to some extent, this problem will never be solved. It's not so easy to pull data out of legacy database systems. Very few of them will give you good tools to migrate away from them. They all want you to stay. So we had to write our own tooling. We scoured the market for it, but we couldn’t find too many options out there.

Understand your data

So a huge lesson learned was, if you really want to do this, if you want to move to big data, get a handle on understanding your data. Make sure you have the domain experts in-house. Make sure you have the tooling in place, however rudimentary it might be, to be able to pull the data out of your existing database. Once you have it in the file system, Vertica can take it in minutes. That’s not the problem. The problem is getting it out.

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We continue to grapple with that and we have made product enhancement recommendations. But in fairness to Vertica, this is really not something that Vertica can do much about, because this is more in the legacy database space.

Gardner: I've heard quite a few people say that, given the velocity with which they are seeing people move to the cloud, that obviously isn't part of their problem, as the data is already in the cloud. It's in the standardized architecture that that cloud is built around, if there is a platform-as-a-service (PaaS) capability, then getting at the data isn't so much of a problem, or am I not reading that correctly?

There is still a lingering fear of the cloud. People will tell you that the cloud is not secure.

Mohsin: No, you're reading that correctly. The problem we have is that a lot of companies are still not in the cloud. There is still a lingering fear of the cloud. People will tell you that the cloud is not secure. If you have customer information, if you have personalized data, many organizations don't want to put it in the cloud.

Slowly, they are moving in that direction. If we were all there, I would completely agree with you, but since we still have so many on-premise deployments, we're still in a hybrid mode -- some is on-prem, some is in the cloud.

Gardner: I just bring it up because it gives yet another reason to seriously consider cloud. It’s a benefit that is actually quite powerful -- the data access and ability to do joins and bring datasets together because they're all in the same cloud.

Mohsin: I fundamentally agree with you. I fundamentally believe in the cloud and that it really should be the way to go. Going through our very recent go-live, there is no way we could have the same elasticity in an on-prem is deployment that we can have in a cloud. I can pick up the phone, call a cloud provider, and have another machine the next day. I can't do that if it’s on-premise.

Again, a simple question of moving all the assets into the cloud, at least in some organizations, will take several months, if not years.

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How Localytics uses big data to improve mobile app development and marketing

Posted By Dana L Gardner, Wednesday, August 05, 2015

The next BriefingsDirect big data innovation case study interview investigates how Localytics uses data and associated analytics to help providers of mobile applications improve their applications -- and also allow them to better understand the uses for their apps and dynamic customer demands.

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To learn more about how big data helps mobile application developers better their products and services, please join Andrew Rollins, Founder and Chief Software Architect at Localytics, based in Boston. The discussion is moderated by me, Dana Gardner, Principal Analyst at Interarbor Solutions.

Here are some excerpts:

Gardner: Tell us about your organization. You founded it to do what?

Rollins: We founded in 2008, two other guys and I. We set out initially to make mobile apps. If you remember back in 2008, this is when the iPhone App Store launched. So there was a lot of excitement around mobile apps at that time.


We initially started looking at different concepts for apps, but then, over a period of a couple months, discovered that there really weren't a whole lot of services out there for mobile apps. It was basically a very bare ecosystem, kind of like the Wild, Wild West. [Register for the upcoming HP Big Data Conference in Boston on Aug. 10-13.]

We ended up focusing on whether there was a services play in this industry and we settled on analytics, which we then called Localytics. The analogy we like to use is, at the time it was a little bit of a gold rush, and we want to sell the pickaxes. So that’s what we did.

Gardner: That makes a great deal of sense, and it has certainly turned into a gold rush. For those folks who do the mining, creating applications, what is it that they need to know?

Analytics and marketing

Rollins: That’s a good question. Here's a little back story on what we do. We do analytics, but we also do marketing. We're a full-service solution, where you can measure how your application is performing out in the wild. You can see what your users are doing. You can do anything from funnel analysis to engagement analysis, things like that.

From there, we also transition into the marketing side of things, where you can manage your push notifications, your in/out messaging.

For people who are making mobile apps, often they want to look at key metrics and then how to drive those metrics. That means a lot of A/B testing, funnel analysis, and engagement analysis.

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It means not only analyzing these things, but making meaningful interactions, reaching out to customers via push notifications, getting them back in the app when they are not using the app, identifying points of drop-off, and messaging them at the right time to get them back in.

An example would be an e-commerce app. You've abandoned the shopping cart. Let’s get you back in the application via some sort of messaging. Doing all of that, measuring the return on investment (ROI) on that, measuring your acquisition channels, measuring what your users are doing, and creating that feedback loop is what we advocate mobile app developers do.

Gardner: You're able to do data-driven marketing in a way that may not have been very accessible before, because everything that’s done with the app is digital and measurable. There are logs, servers -- and so somewhere there's going to be a trail. It’s not so much marketing as it is science. We've always thought of marketing as perhaps an art and less of a science. How do you see this changing the very nature of marketing?

Everything ultimately that you are doing really does need to be data-driven. It's very hard to work off just intuition alone.

Rollins: Everything ultimately that you are doing really does need to be data-driven. It's very hard to work off of just intuition alone. So that's the art and science. You come out with your initial hypothesis, and that’s a little bit more on the craft or art side, where you're using your intuition to guide you on where to start.

From there, you have to use the data to iterate. I'm going to try this, this, and this, and then see which works out. That would be like a typical multivariate kind of testing.

Determine what works out of all these concepts that you're trying, and then you iterate on that. That's where measuring anything you do, any kind of interaction you have with your user, and then using that as feedback to then inform the next interaction is what you have to be doing.

Gardner: And this is also a bit revolutionary when it comes to software development. It wasn't that long ago that the waterfall approach to development might leave years between iterations. Now, we're thinking about constantly updating, iterating, getting a feedback loop, and condensing the latency of that feedback loop so that we really can react as close to real-time as possible.

What is it about mobile apps that's allowed for a whole different approach to this notion of connectedness and feedback loops to an app audience?

Mobile apps are different

Rollins: This brings up a good point. A lot of people ask why we have a mobile app analytics company. Why did we do that? Why is typical web analytics not good enough? It kind of speaks to something that you're talking about. Mobile apps are a little bit different than the regular web, in the sense that you do have a cycle that you can push apps out on.

You release to, let’s say, the iPhone App Store. It might take a couple of weeks before your app goes out there. So you have to be really careful about what you're publishing, because your turnaround time is not that of the web. [Register for the upcoming HP Big Data Conference in Boston on Aug. 10-13.]

However, there are certain interactions you can have, like on the messaging side, where you have an ability to instantly go back and forth. Mobile apps are a different kind of market. It requires a little different understanding than the traditional approach.

... We consume the data in a real-time pipeline. We're not doing background batch processing that you might see in something like Hadoop. We're doing a lot of real-time pipeline stuff, such that you can see results within a minute or two of it being uploaded from a device. That's largely where HP Vertica comes in, and why we ended up using Vertica, because of its real-time nature. It’s about the scale.

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Gardner: If I understand correctly, you have access to the data from all these devices, you are crunching that, and you're offering reports and services back to your customers. Do they look to you as also a platform provider or just a data-service provider? How do the actual hosting and support services for these marketing capabilities come about?

Rollins: We tend to cater more toward the high end. A lot of our customers are large app publishers that have an ongoing application, let’s say a shopping application or news application.

In that sense, when we bring people on board, oftentimes they tend to be larger companies that aren’t necessarily technically savvy yet about mobile, because it's still new for some people. We do offer a lot of onboarding services to make sure they integrate their application correctly, measure it correctly, and are looking at the right metrics for their industry, as compared to other apps in that industry.

Then, we keep that relationship open as they go along and as they see data. We iterate on that with them. Because of the newness of the industry it does require education.

Gardner: And where is HP Vertica running for you? Do you run it on your own data center? Are you using cloud? Is there a hybrid? Do you have some other model?

Running in the cloud

Rollins: We run it in the cloud. We are running on Amazon Web Services (AWS). We've thought a lot about whether we should run it in a separate data center, so that we can dictate the hardware, but presently we are running it in AWS.

Gardner: Let’s talk about what you can do when you do this correctly. Because you have a capacity to handle scale, you've developed speed, and you understand the requirements in the market, what are your customers getting from the ability to do all this?

Rollins: It really depends on the customer. Something like an e-commerce app is going to look heavily at things like where users are dropping off and what's preventing them from making that purchase.

Another application, like news, which I mentioned, will look at something different, usually something more along the lines of engagement. How long are they reading an article for? That matters to them, so that they can give those numbers to advertisers.

So the answer to that largely depends on who you are and what your app is. Something like an e-commerce app is going to look heavily at things like where users are dropping off and what's preventing them from making that purchase.

Something like an e-commerce app is going to look heavily at things like where users are dropping off and what's preventing them from making that purchase.

Gardner: I suppose another benefit of developing these insights, as specific and germane as they might be to each client, is the ability to draw different types of data in. Clearly, there's the data from the App Store and from the app itself, but if we could join that data with some other external datasets, we might be able to determine something more about why they drop-off or why they are spending more, or time doing certain things.

So is there an opportunity, and do you have any examples of where you've been able to go after more datasets and then be able to scale to that?

Rollins: This is something that's come up a lot recently. In the past year, we have our own products that we're launching in this space, but the idea of integrating different data types is really big right now.

You have all these different silos -- mobile, web, and even your internal server infrastructure. If you're a retail company that has a mobile app, you might even have physical stores. So you're trying to get all this data in some collective view of your customer.

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You want to know that Sally came to your store and purchased a particular kind of item. Then, you want to be able to know that in your mobile app. Maybe you have a loyalty card that you can tie across the media and then use that to engage with her meaningfully about stuff that might interest her in the mobile app as well.

"We noticed that you bought this a month ago. Maybe you need another one. Here is a coupon for it."

Other datasets

That's a big thing, and we're looking at a lot of different ways of doing that by bringing in other datasets that might not be from just a mobile app itself.

We're not even focused on mobile apps any more. We're really just an app analytics company, and that means the web and desktop. We ship in Windows, for example. We deal with a lot of Microsoft applications. Tying together all of that stuff is kind of the future. [Register for the upcoming HP Big Data Conference in Boston on Aug. 10-13.]

Gardner: For those organizations that are embarking on more of a data-driven business model, that are looking for analytics and platforms and requirements, is there anything that you could offer in hindsight having traveled this path and worked with HP Vertica. What should they keep in mind when they're looking to move into a capability, maybe it's on-prem, maybe it's cloud. What advice could you offer them?

At scale, you have to know what each technology is good at, and how you bring together multiple technologies to accomplish what you want.

Rollins: The journey that we went through was with various platforms. At the end of day, be aware of what the vendor of the big-data platform is pitching, versus the reality of it.

A lot of times, prototyping is very easy, but actually going to large scale is fairly difficult. At scale, you have to know what each technology is good at, and how you bring together multiple technologies to accomplish what you want.

That means a lot of prototyping, a lot of stress testing and benchmarking. You really don’t know until you try it with a lot of these things. There are a lot of promises, but the reality might be different.

Gardner: Any thoughts about Vertica’s track record, given your length of experience?

Rollins: They're really good. I'm both impressed with the speed of it as compared to other things we have looked at, as well as the features that they release. Vertica 7 has a bunch of great stuff in it. Vertica 6, when it came out, had a bunch of great stuff in it. I'm pretty happy with it.

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HP hyper-converged appliance delivers speedy VDI and apps deployment and a direct onramp to hybrid cloud

Posted By Dana L Gardner, Tuesday, August 04, 2015
Updated: Thursday, August 06, 2015

HP today announced the new HP ConvergedSystem 250-HC StoreVirtual (CS 250), a hyper-converged infrastructure appliance (HCIA) based on HP's new ProLiant Apollo 2000 server and HP StoreVirtual software-defined storage (SDS) technology.

Built on up-to-date HP, Intel, and VMware technologies, the CS 250 combines a virtual server and storage infrastructure that HP says is configurable in minutes for nearly half the price of competitive systems. It is designed for virtual desktops and remote office productivity, as well as  to provide a flexible path to hybrid cloud. [Disclosure: HP is a sponsor of BriefingsDirect.]

Designed to attract customers on a tight budget, the HP CS 250 includes a new three-node configuration that is up to 49 percent more cost effective than comparable configurations from Nutanix, SimpliVity and other competitors, says HP. Because HP's StoreVirtual runs in VMware, Microsoft Hyper-V and KVM virtual environments, the appliance may soon come to support all those hypervisors.

HP recently discontinued the EVO:RAIL version of its HCIA, which was based on the EVO:RAIL software from OEM partner VMware.

Increasingly, even small IT shops want to modernize and simplify how they support existing applications. They want virtualization benefits to extend to storage, backup and recovery, and be ready to implement and consume some cloud services. They want the benefits of software-defined data centers (SDDC), but they don’t want to invest huge amounts of time, money, and risk in a horizontal, pan-IT modernization approach.

That's why, according to IDC, businesses are looking for flexible infrastructure solutions that will allow them to quickly deploy and run new applications. This trend has resulted in a 116 percent year-over-year increase in hyper-converged systems sales and 60 percent compound annual growth rate (CAGR) anticipated through 2019.
The growth in the building blocks approach to IT infrastructure is building rapidly. IDC estimates that in 2015, $10.2 billion will be spent on converged systems, representing 11.4 percent of total IT infrastructure spending. This number will grow to $14.3 billion by 2018, representing 14.9 percent of total IT infrastructure spending, says IDC. Similarly, Technology Business Research, Inc. in Hampton, NH, estimates a $10.6 billion U.S. addressable market over the next 12 months, through mid-2016.

With HCIAs specifically, enterprises can begin making what amounts to mini-clouds based on their required workloads and use cases.  IT can quickly deliver the benefits of modern IT architectures without biting off the whole cloud model. Virtual desktops is a great place to begin, especially as Windows 10 is emerging on the scene.
Indeed, VDI deployments that support as many as 250 desktops on a single appliance at a remote office or agency, for example, allow for ease in administration and deployment on a small footprint while keeping costs clear and predictable. And, if the enterprise wants to scale up and out to hybrid cloud, they can do so with ease and low risk.

Multi-site continuity

The inclusion of three 4TB StoreVirtual Virtual Storage Appliance (VSA) licenses also allows the new HP CS 250 system to replicate data to any other HP StoreVirtual-based solution. This means that customers can leverage their existing infrastructure as a replication target at no additional cost, says HP. The CS 250 also allows customers to tailor the system with a choice of up to 96 processing cores, a mix of SSD and SAS disk drives, and up to 2TB of memory per 4-node appliance -- double that of previous generations.

The CS 250 arrives pre-configured for VMware's vSphere 5.5 or 6.0 and HP OneView InstantOn to enable customers to be production-ready with only 5 minutes of keyboard time and a total of 15 minutes deployment time, with daily management from VMware vCenter via the HP OneView for VMware vCenter plug-in, says HP.

HP sees the CS 250 as a oath to bigger things. For midsize and enterprise customers seeking an efficient and cost-effective cloud entry point, for example, the new HP Helion CloudSystem 9.0 built on the CS 250 provides a direct path to the hybrid cloud. This hyper-converged cloud solution leverages the clustered compute and storage resources of the CS 250 for on-premise workloads but adds self-service portal provisioning and public cloud bursting features for those moving beyond server virtualization.

HP announced that it is enhancing its “Nitro” partner program and opening it up to distributors worldwide, starting with Arrow Electronics in the US.

HP is also introducing new Software-Defined Storage Design and Integration services to help customers deploy highly scalable, elastic cloud storage services, the company announced today. The integration service provides customers with detailed configuration and implementation guidance tailored to their specific needs to accelerate time to value, said HP.

The 4-node CS 250-HC StoreVirtual is available on August 17, while 3-node configurations are available on September 28.  A sample solution price inclusive of the 3-node CS250 with Foundation Carepack and VMware vSphere Enterprise starts at a list price of $121,483, said HP.

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Full 360 takes big data analysis cloud services to new business heights

Posted By Dana L Gardner, Thursday, July 30, 2015

The latest BriefingsDirect cloud innovation case study interview highlights how Full 360 uses big data and analytics to improve their applications support services for the financial industry -- and beyond.

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To learn how Full 360 uses HP Vertica in the Amazon cloud to provide data warehouse and BI applications and services to its customers from Wall Street to the local airport, BriefingsDirect sat down with Eric Valenzuela, Director of Business Development at Full 360, based in New York. The discussion is moderated by me, Dana Gardner, Principal Analyst at Interarbor Solutions.

Here are some excerpts:

Gardner: Tell us about Full 360.

Valenzuela: Full 360 is a consulting and services firm, and we purely focus on data warehousingbusiness intelligence (BI), and hosted solutions. We build and consult and then we do managed services for hosting those complex, sophisticated solutions in the cloud, in the Amazon cloud specifically.

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Gardner: And why is cloud a big differentiator for this type of service in the financial sector?

Valenzuela: It’s not necessarily just for finance. It seems to be beneficial for any company that has a large initiative around data warehouse and BI. For us, specifically, the cloud is a platform that we can develop our scripts and processes around. That way, we can guarantee 100 percent that we're providing the same exact service to all of our customers.


We have quite a bit of intellectual property (IP) that’s wrapped up inside our scripts and processes. The cloud platform itself is a good starting point for a lot of people, but it also has elasticity for those companies that continue to grow and add to their data warehousing and BI solutions. [Register for the upcoming HP Big Data Conference in Boston on Aug. 10-13.]

Gardner: Eric, it sounds as if you've built your own platform as a service (PaaS) for your specific activities and development and analytics on top of a public cloud infrastructure. Is that fair to say?

Valenzuela: That’s a fair assumption.

Primary requirements

Gardner: So as you are doing this cloud-based analytic service, what is it that your customers are demanding of you? What are the primary requirements you fulfill for them with this technology and approach?

Valenzuela: With data warehousing being rather new, Vertica specifically, there is a lack of knowledge out there in terms of how to manage it, keep it up and running, tune it, analyze queries and make sure that they're returning information efficiently, that kind of thing. What we try to do is to supplement that lack of expertise.

Gardner: Leave the driving to us, more or less. You're the plumbers and you let them deal with the proper running water and other application-level intelligence?

Valenzuela: We're like an insurance policy. We do all the heavy lifting, the maintenance, and the management. We ensure that your solution is going to run the way that you expect it to run. We take the mundane out, and then give the companies the time to focus on building intelligent applications, as opposed to worrying about how to keep the thing up and running, tuned, and efficient.

Gardner: Given that Wall Street has been crunching numbers for an awfully long time, and I know that they have, in many ways, almost unlimited resources to go at things like BI -- what’s different now than say 5 or 10 years ago? Is there more of a benefit to speed and agility versus just raw power? How has the economics or dynamics of Wall Street analytics changed over the past few years?

We're like an insurance policy. We do all the heavy lifting, the maintenance, and the management.

Valenzuela: First, it’s definitely the level of data. Just 5 or 10 years ago, either you had disparate pieces of data or you didn’t have a whole lot of data. Now it seems like we are just managing massive amounts of data from different feeds, different sources. As that grows, there has to be a vehicle to carry all of that, where it’s limitless in a sense.

Early on, it was really just a lack of the volume that we have today. In addition to that, 8 or 10 years ago BI was still rather new in what it could actually do for a company in terms of making agile decisions and informed decisions, decisions with intent.

So fast forward, and it’s widely accepted and adopted now. It’s like the cloud. When cloud first came out, everybody was concerned about security. How are we going to get the data in there? How are we going to stand this thing up? How are we going to manage it? Those questions come up a lot less now than they did even two years ago. [Register for the upcoming HP Big Data Conference in Boston on Aug. 10-13.]

Gardner: While you may have cut your teeth on Wall Street, you seem to be branching out into other verticals -- gaming, travel, logistics. What are some of the other areas now to which you're taking your services, your data warehouse, and your BI tools?

Following the trends

Valenzuela: It seems like we're following the trends. Recently it's been gaming. We have quite a few gaming customers that are just producing massive amounts of data.

There's also the airline industry. The customers that we have in airlines, now that they have a way to -- I hate this term -- slice and dice their data, are building really informed, intelligent applications to service their customers, customer appreciation. It’s built for that kind of thing. Airlines are now starting to see what their competition is doing. So they're getting on board and starting to build similar applications so they are not left behind.

Banking was pretty much the first to go full force and adopt BI as a basis for their practice. Finance has always been there. They've been doing it for quite a long time.

Gardner: So as the director of business development, I imagine you're out there saying, "We can do things that couldn’t have been done before at prices that weren’t available before." That must give you almost an unlimited addressable market. How do you know where to go next to sell this?

At first, we were doing a lot of education. Now, it’s just, "Yes, we can do this."

Valenzuela: It’s kind of an open field. From my perspective, I look at the different companies out there that come to me. At first, we were doing a lot of education. Now, it’s just, "Yes, we can do this," because these things are proven. We're not proving any concepts anymore. Everything has already been done, and we know that we can do it.

It is an open field, but we focus purely on the cloud. We expect all of our customers will be in the Amazon cloud. It seems that now I am teaching people a little bit more -- just because it’s cloud, it’s not magic. You still have to do a lot of work. It’s still an infrastructure.

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But we come from that approach and we make sure that the customer is properly aligned with the vision that this is not just a one- or two-month type commitment. We're not just going to build a solution, put it in our pocket, and walk away. We want to know that they're fully committed for 6-12 months.

Otherwise, you're not going to get the benefits of it. You're just going to spend the money and the effort, and you're not really going to get any benefits out of it if you're not going to be committed for the longer period of time. There still are some challenges with the sales and business development.

Gardner: Given this emphasis on selling the cloud model as much as the BI value, you needed to choose an analytics platform that was cloud-friendly and that was also Amazon AWS cloud-friendly. Tell me how Vertica and Amazon -- and your requirements -- came together.

Good timing

Valenzuela: I think it was purely a timing thing. Our CTO, Rohit Amarnath, attended a session at MIT, where Vertica was first announced. So he developed a relationship there.

This was right around the time when Amazon announced that they were offering its public cloud platform, EC2. So it made a lot of sense to look at the cloud as being a vision, looking at the cloud as a platform, looking at column databases as a future way of managing BI and analytics, and then putting the two together.

It was more or less a timing thing. Amazon was there. It was new technology, and we saw the future in that. Analytics was newly adopted. So now you have the column database that we can leverage as well. So blend the two together and start building some platform that hadn’t been done yet.

There are a lot of Vertica customers out there that are going to reach a limitation. That may require procuring more hardware, more IT staff. The cloud aspect removes all of that.

Gardner: What about lessons learned along the way? Are there some areas to avoid or places that you think are more valuable that people might appreciate? If someone were to begin a journey toward a combination of BI, cloud, and vertical industry tool function, what might you tell them to be wary of, or to double-down on?

Valenzuela: We forged our own way. We couldn’t learn from our competitors’ mistakes because we were the ones that were creating the mistakes. We had to to clear those up and learn from our own mistakes as we moved forward.

Gardner: So perhaps a lesson is to be bold and not to be confined by the old models of IT?

Valenzuela: Definitely that. Definitely thinking outside the box and seeing what the cloud can do, focus on forgetting about old IT and then looking at cloud as a new form of IT. Understanding what it cannot do as a basis, but really open up your mind and think about it as to what it can actually do, from an elasticity perspective.

There are a lot of Vertica customers out there that are going to reach a limitation. That may require procuring more hardware, more IT staff. The cloud aspect removes all of that.

Gardner: I suppose it allows you as a director of business development to go downstream. You can find smaller companies, medium-sized enterprises, and say, "Listen, you don’t have to build a data warehouse at your own expense. You can start doing BI based on a warehouse-as-a-service model, pay as you go, grow as you learn, and so forth."

Money concept

Valenzuela: Exactly. Small or large, those IT departments are spending that money anyway. They're spending it on servers. If they are on-premises, the cost of that server in the cloud should be equal or less. That’s the concept. [Register for the upcoming HP Big Data Conference in Boston on Aug. 10-13.]

If you're already spending the money, why not just migrate it and then partner with a firm like us that knows how to operate that. Then, we become your augmented experts, or that insurance policy, to make sure that those things are going to be running the way you want them to, as if it were your own IT department.

Gardner: What are the types of applications that people have been building and that you've been helping them with at Full 360? We're talking about not just financial, but enterprise performance management. What are the other kinds of BI apps? What are some of the killer apps that people have been using your services to do?

I don’t know how that could be driven if it weren’t for analytics and if it weren’t for technology like Vertica to be able to provide that information.

Valenzuela: Specifically, with one of our large airlines, it's customer appreciation. The level of detail on their customers that they're able to bring to the plane, to the flight attendants, in a handheld device is powerful. It’s powerful to the point where you remember that treatment that you got on the plane. So that’s one thing.

That’s something that you don’t get if you fly a lot, if you fly other airlines. That’s just kind of some detail and some treatment that you just don’t get. I don’t know how that could be driven if it weren’t for analytics and if it weren’t for technology like Vertica to be able to provide that information.

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How big data technologies Hadoop and Vertica drive business results at Snagajob

Posted By Dana L Gardner, Tuesday, July 28, 2015

The next BriefingsDirect analytics innovation case study interview explores how Snagajob in Richmond, Virginia – one of the largest hourly employment networks for job seekers and employers – uses big data to finally understand their systems' performance in action. The result is vast improvement in how they provide rapid and richer services to their customers.

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Snagajob recently delivered 4 million new jobs applications in a single month through their systems. To learn how they're managing such impressive scale, BriefingsDirect sat down with Robert Fehrmann, Data Architect at Snagajob in Richmond, Virginia. The discussion is moderated by me, Dana Gardner, Principal Analyst at Interarbor Solutions.

Here are some excerpts:

Gardner: Tell us about your jobs matching organization. You’ve been doing this successfully since 2000. Let's understand the role you play in the employment market.

Fehrmann: Snagajob, as you mentioned, is America's largest hourly network for employees and employers. The hourly market means we have, relatively speaking, high turnover.

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Another aspect, in comparison to some of our competitors, is that we provide an inexpensive service. So our subscriptions are on the low end, compared to our competitors.

Gardner: Tell us how you use big data to improve your operations. I believe that among the first ways that you’ve done that is to try to better analyze your performance metrics. What were you facing as a problem when it came to performance? [Register for the upcoming HP Big Data Conference in Boston on Aug. 10-13.]

Signs of stress

Fehrmann: A couple of years ago, we started looking at our environment, and it became obvious that our traditional technology was showing some signs of stress. As you mentioned, we really have data at scale here. We have 20,000 to 25,000 postings per day, and we have about 700,000 unique visitors on a daily basis. So data is coming in very, very quickly.


We also realized that we're sitting on a gold mine and we were able to ingest data pretty well. But we had problem getting information and innovation out of our big data lake.

Gardner: And of course, near real time is important. You want to catch degradation in any fashion from your systems right away. How do you then go about getting this in real time? How do you do the analysis?

Fehrmann: We started using Hadoop. I'll use a lot of technical terms here. From our website, we're getting events. Events are routed via Flume directly into Hadoop. We're collecting about 600 million key-value pairs on a daily basis. It's a massive amount of data, 25 gigabytes on a daily basis.

The second piece in this journey to big data was analyzing these events, and that’s where we're using HP Vertica. Second, our original use case was to analyze a funnel. A funnel is where people come to our site. They're searching for jobs, maybe by keyword, maybe by zip code. A subset of that is an interest in a job, and they click on a posting. A subset of that is applying for the job via an application. A subset is interest in an employer, and so on. We had never been able to analyze this funnel.

The dataset is about 300 to 400 million rows, and 30 to 40 gigabytes. We wanted to make this data available, not just to our internal users, but all external users. Therefore, we set ourselves a goal of a five-second response time. No query on this dataset should run for more than five seconds -- and Vertica and Hadoop gave us a solution for this.

Gardner: How have you been able to increase your performance reach your key performance indicators (KPIs) and service-level agreements (SLAs)? How has this benefited you?

Fehrmann: Another application that we were able to implement is a recommendation engine. A recommendation engine is that use where our jobseekers who apply for a specific job may not know about all the other jobs that are very similar to this job or that other people have applied to.

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We started analyzing the search results that we were getting and implemented a recommendation engine. Sometimes it’s very difficult to have real comparison between before and after. Here, we were able to see that we got an 11 percent increase in application flow. Application flow is how many applications a customer is getting from us. By implementing this recommendation engine, we saw an immediate 11 percent increase in application flow, one of our key metrics.

Gardner: So you took the success from your big-data implementation and analysis capabilities from this performance task to some other areas. Are there other business areas, search yield, for example, where you can apply this to get other benefits?

Brand-new applications

Fehrmann: When we started, we had the idea that we were looking for a solution for migrating our existing environment, to a better-performing new environment. But what we've seen is that most of the applications we've developed so far are brand-new applications that we hadn't been able to do before.

You mentioned search yield. Search yield is a very interesting aspect. It’s a massive dataset. It's about 2.5 billion rows and about 100 gigabytes of data as of right now and it's continuously increasing. So for all of the applications, as well as all of the search requests that we have collected since we have started this environment, we're able to analyze the search yield.

Most of the applications we've developed so far are brand-new applications that we hadn't been able to do before.

For example, that's how many applications we get for a specific search keyword in real time. By real time, I mean that somebody can run a query against this massive dataset and gets result in a couple of seconds. We can analyze specific jobs in specific areas, specific keywords that are searched in a specific time period or in a specific location of the country.

Gardner: And once again, now that you've been able to do something you couldn't do before, what have been the results? How has that impacted change your business? [Register for the upcoming HP Big Data Conference in Boston on Aug. 10-13.]

Fehrmann: It really allows our salespeople to provide great information during the prospecting phase. If we're prospecting with a new client, we can tell him very specifically that if they're in this industry, in this area, they can expect an application flow, depending on how big the company is, of let’s say in a hundred applications per day.

Gardner: How has this been a benefit to your end users, those people seeking jobs and those people seeking to fill jobs?

Fehrmann: There are certainly some jobs that people are more interested in than others. On the flip side, if a particular job gets a 100 or 500 applications, it's just a fact that only a small number going to get that particular job. Now if you apply for a job that isn't as interesting, you have much, much higher probability of getting the job.

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Beyond look and feel--The new role that total user experience plays in business apps

Posted By Dana L Gardner, Monday, July 27, 2015

The next BriefingsDirect business innovation thought leadership discussion focuses on the heightened role and impact of total user experience improvements for both online and mobile applications and services.

We'll explore how user expectations and rethinking of business productivity are having a profound impact on how business applications are used, designed, and leveraged to help buyers, sellers, and employees do their jobs better.

We’ll learn about the advantages of new advances in bringing instant collaboration, actionable analytics, and contextual support capabilities into the application interface to create a total user experience.

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To examine why applications must have more than a pretty face to improve the modern user experience, we're joined by Chris Haydon, Senior Vice President of Solutions Management for Procurement, Finance and Network at Ariba, an SAP company. The discussion is moderated by me, Dana Gardner, Principal Analyst at Interarbor Solutions.

Here are some excerpts:

Gardner: Chris, what sort of confluence of factors has come together to make this concept of user experience so important, so powerful? What has changed, and why must we think more about experience than interface?

Haydon: Dana, it’s a great question. There is the movement of hyper-collaboration, and things are moving faster and faster than ever before.


We're seeing major shifts in trends on how users view themselves and how they want to interact with their application, their business applications in particular, and more and more, drawing parallels from their consumer and how they bring that simple consumer-based experience into their daily work. Those are some of the mega trends.

Then, as we step down a little bit, within that is obviously this collaboration aspect and how people prefer to collaborate online at work more than they did in traditional mechanisms, certainly via phone or fax.

Then, there's mobility. If someone doesn’t really have a smartphone in this day and age, certainly they're behind the eight ball.

Last but not least, there's the changing demographic of our workforce. In 2015, there are some stats out there that showed that millennials will become the single largest percentage of the workforce.

All of these macro trends and figures are going into how we need to think about our total user experience in our applications.

Something more?

Gardner: For those of us who have been using applications for years and years and have sort of bopped around -- whether we're on a mobile device or a PC -- from application to application, are we just integrating apps so that we don't have to change apps, or is it something more? Is this a whole greater than the existing sum of the parts?

Haydon: It’s certainly something more. It’s more the one plus one equals three concept here. The intersection of the connectivity powered by business networks, as well as the utility of mobile devices not tied to your desktop can fundamentally change the way people think about their interactions and think about the business processes and how they think about the work that needs to be done throughout the course of their work environment. That really is the difference.

This is not about just tweaking up as you open up a user interface. This is really about thinking about personal-based interactions in the context of mobility in a network-oriented or network-centric collaboration.

Gardner: When we think about collaboration, traditionally that’s been among people, but it seems to me that this heightened total user experience means we're actually collaborating increasingly with services. They could be services that recognize that we're at a particular juncture in a business process. They could be services that recognize that we might need help or support in a situation where we've run out of runway and don't know what to do, or even instances where intelligence and analytics are being brought to us as we need it, rather than our calling out to it.

Tell me about this expanding definition of collaboration. Am I right that we're collaborating with more than just other people here?

The best total user experiences are bringing that context to the end user managing that complexity, but contextualizing it to bring it to their attention as they work through it.

Haydon: That’s right. It’s putting information in the context of the business process right at the point of demand. Whether that’s predictive, intelligence, third party, the best user interfaces and the best total user experiences are bringing that context to the end user managing that complexity -- but contextualizing it to bring it to their attention as they work through it.

So whether that’s a budget check and whether there is some gaming on budget, it's saying, "You're under budget; that’s great." That’s an internal metric. Maybe in the future, you start thinking about  how others are performing in other segments of the business. If you want to take it even further, how are other potential suppliers doing on their response rate to their customers?

There is a whole new dimension on giving people contextualized information at the point where they need to make a decision, or even recommending the type of decisions they need to make. It could be from third-party sources that can come from a business network outside your firewall, or from smarter analysis and predictive analysis, from the transactions that are happening within the four walls of your firewall, or in your current application or your other business applications.

Gardner: It seems pretty clear that this is the way things are going. The logic behind why the user experience has expanded in its power and its utility makes perfect sense. I'm really enthused about this notion of contextual intelligence being brought to a business process, but it's more than just a vision here.

Pulling this off must be quite difficult. I know that many people have been thinking about doing this, but there just isn't that much of it actually going on yet. So we're at the vanguard.

What are the problems? What are the challenges that it takes to pull this off to make it happen? It seems to me there are a lot back-end services, and while we focus on the user experience and user interface, we're really talking about sophisticated technology in the data center providing these services.

Cloud as enabler

Haydon: There are a couple of enablers to this. I think the number one enabler here is cloud versus on-premise. When you can see the behavior in real time in a community aspect, you can actually build infrastructure services around that. In traditional on-premise models, when that’s locked in, all that burden is actually being pushed back to the corporate IT to be able to do that.

The second point is when you're in the cloud and you think about applications that are network-aware, you're able to bring in third-party, validated, trusted information to help make that difference. So there are those challenges.

I also think that it comes down to technology, but technology is moving to the focus of building applications actually for the end user. When you start thinking about the interactions with the end user and the focus on them, it really drives you to think about how you give that different contextualized information.

When you can have that level of granularity in saying, "I'm logging on as an invoicing processing assistant", or "I'm logging on as just a casual ad-hoc requisitioner." When the system knows you have done that, it’s actually able to be smart and pick up and contextualize that. That’s where we really see the future and the vision of how this is all coming together.

The reality is that in most companies for the foreseeable future there will be some degree of on-premise applications that continue to drive businesses, and then there will be side-by-side cloud businesses.

Gardner: When we spoke a while back about the traditional way that people got productivity was switching manually from application to application -- whether that’s an on-premise application or a software-as-a-service (SaaS) based application -- if they are losing the benefit of a common back-end intelligence capability or network services that are aware or access an identity management that’s coordinated, we still don't get that total user experience, even though the cloud is an important factor here and SaaS is a big part of it.

What brings together the best of cloud, but also the best of that coordinated, integrated total experience when you know the user and all of their policies and information can be brought to bear on this experience and productivity demand?

Haydon: There are a couple of ways of doing that. You could talk here about the concept of hybrid cloud. The reality is that in most companies for the foreseeable future there will be some degree of on-premise applications that continue to drive businesses, and then there will be side-by-side cloud businesses.

So it’s the job of leading practice technology providers, SaaS and on-premise providers, to enable that to happen. There definitely is this notion of having a very robust platform that underpins the cloud product and can be seamlessly integrated to the on-premise product.

Again, from a technology and a trend perspective, that’s where it’s going. So if the provider doesn’t have a solid platform approach to be able to link the disparate cloud services to disparate on-premise solutions, then you can’t give that full context to the end user.

One thing too is thinking about the user interface. The user interface manages that complexity for the end user. The end user really shouldn't need to know the mode of deployment, nor should they need to know really where they're at. That’s what the new leading user interfaces and what the total experience is about, to take you guided through your workflow or your work that needs to be done irrespective of the deployment location of that service.

Ariba roadmap

Gardner: Chris, we spoke last at Ariba Live, the user conference back in the springtime and you were describing the roadmap for Ariba and other applications coming through 2015  into 2016.

What’s been happening recently? This week, I think, you've gone general availability (July 2015) with some of these services. Maybe you could quickly describe that. Are we talking about the on-premise apps, the SaaS apps, the mobile apps, all the above? What’s happening?

Haydon: We're really excited about that. For our current releases that came out this week (see a demo), we launched our total user experience approach, where we have working anywhere, embracing the most modern user design interactions into our user interface, mobility, and also within that, and how we can enable our end users to learn the processes and context. All this has been launched in Ariba within the last 14 days.

Specifically, it’s about embracing modern user design principles. We have a great design principle here within SAP called Fiori. So we've taken that design principle and brought that into the world of procurement to put on top of our leading-practice capabilities today and we're bringing this new updated user experience design.

What we are doing differently here is embracing the power and the capability of mobile devices with cloud and the work that needs to be done.

But we haven’t stopped there. We're embracing, as you mentioned, this mobility aspect and how can we design new interactions between our common user interface on our mobile and a common user interface on our cloud deployment as one. That’s a given, but what we are doing differently here is embracing the power and the capability of mobile devices with cloud and the work that needs to be done.

One idea of that is how we have a process continuity feature, where you can look on your mobile application, have a look at some activities that you might want to track later on. You can click or pin that activity on your mobile device and when you come to your desktop to do some work, that pinning activity is visible for you to go on tracking and get your job done.

Similarly, if you're on the go to go and have a meeting, you're able to push some reports down to your mobile tablet or your smartphone to be able to look and review that work on the go.

We're really looking at that full, total user experience, whether you're on the desktop or whether you are on the go on your mobile device, all underpinned by a common user design imperative based upon Fiori.

Gardner: Just to be clear, we're talking about not only this capability across those network services for on-prem, cloud, and mobile, but we're taking this across more than a handful of apps. Tell us a bit about how these Ariba applications and the Ariba Network also involve other travel and expense capabilities. What other apps are involved in terms of line-of-business platform that SAP is providing?

Leading practice

Haydon: From a procurement perspective, obviously we have Ariba’s leading practice procurement. As context, we have another fantastic solution for contingent labor, statement-of-work labor and other services, and that’s called Fieldglass. We've been working closely with the Fieldglass team to ensure that our user interface that we are rolling out on our Ariba procurement applications is consistent with Fieldglass, and it’s based again on the Fiori style of design construct.

We're moving toward where an end user, whether they want to interact to do detailed time sheets or service entry, or they want to do requisitioning for powerful materials and inventory, on the Ariba side find a seamless experience.

We're progressively moving forward to that same style of construct for the Concur applications for our travel and expense, and even the larger SAP, cloud and S4/HANA approaches as well.

Gardner: You mentioned SAP HANA. Tell us how we're not only dealing with this user experience across devices, work modes, and across application types, but now we have a core platform approach that allows for those analytics to leverage and exploit the data that's available, depending on the type of applications any specific organization is using.

What we are really seeing is that the customer interactions change because they're actually able to do different and faster types of iterations.

It strikes me that we have a possibility of a virtuous adoption cycle; that is to say, the more data used in conjunction with more apps begets more data, begets more insights, begets more productivity. How is HANA and analytics coming to bear on this?

Haydon: We've had HANA running on analytics on the Ariba side for more than 12 months now. The most important thing that we see with HANA is that it's not about HANA in itself. It's a wonderful technology, but what we are really seeing is that the customer interactions change because they're actually able to do different and faster types of iterations.

To us, that's the real power of what HANA gives us from a technology and platform aspect to build on. When you can have real time analytics across massive amounts of information put into the context of what an end user does, that to us is where the true business and customer and end-user benefit will come from leveraging the HANA technology.

So we have it running in our analytics stack, progressively moving that through the rest of our analytics on the Ariba platform. Quite honestly, the sky's the limit as it relates to what that technology can enable us to do. The main focus though is how we give different business interactions, and HANA is just a great engine that enables us to do that.

Gardner: It's a fascinating time if you're a developer, because previously, you had to go through a requirements process with the users, but using these analytics you can measure and see what those users are actually doing, or progressing and modernizing their processes, and then take that analytics capability back into the next iteration of the application.

So it's interesting that we're talking about total user experience. We could be talking about total developer experience, or even total IT operator experience when it comes to delivering security and compliance. Expand a little bit about how what you are doing on that user side actually benefits the entire life cycle of these applications.

Thinking company

Haydon: It's really exciting. There are other great companies that do this, and SAP is really investing in this as well as Ariba, making sure we're really a data-driven, real-time, thinking company.

And you're right. In the simplest way, we're rolling out our total user experience in the simplest model. We're providing a toggle, meaning we're enabling our end users to road test the user experience and then switch back. We don't think anyone will want to switch back, but it's great.

That's the same type of experience that you experience in your personal life. When someone is trialing a new feature on an e-marketplace or in a consumer store, you're able to try this experience and come back. What's great about that is we're getting real-time insight. We know which customers are doing this. We know which personas are doing this. We know how long they are doing this for their session time.

We're able to bring that back to our developers, to our product managers, to our user design center experts, and just as importantly, back to our customers and also back to our partners to be able to say, "There is some info, doing these types of things, they are not on this page. They have been looking for this type of information when they do a query or request."

First and foremost, and it’s important, our customers entrust their business processes to us, and so it's about zero business disruption, and no downtime is our number one goal.

These types of information we're feeding into our roadmap, but we are also feeding back into our customers so they understand how their employees are working with our applications. As we step forward, we're exposing this in the right way to our partners to help them potentially build applications on top of what we already have on the Ariba platform.

Gardner: So obviously you can look this in the face at the general level of productivity, but now we can get specific with partners into verticals, geographies, all the details that come along with business applications, company to company, region to region.

Let’s think about how this comes to market. You've announced the general availability in July 2015 on Ariba, and because this is SaaS, there are no forklifts, there are no downloads, no install, and no worries about configuration data. Tell us how this rolls out and how people can experience it if they've become intrigued about this concept of total user experience. How easy is it for them to then now start taking part in it?

Haydon: First and foremost, and it’s important, our customers entrust their business processes to us, and so it's about zero business disruption, and no downtime is our number one goal.

When we rolled out our global network release to a 1.8 million suppliers two weeks ago (see a demo), we had zero downtime on the world’s largest business network. Similarly, as we rolled out our total user experience, zero downtime as well. So that’s the first thing. The number one thing is about business continuity.

The second thing really is a concept that we think about. It’s called agile adoption. This is again how we let end users and companies of end users adopt our solutions.

Educating customers

We have done an awful lot of work, before go live, on educating our customers, providing frequently asked questions, where required, training materials and updates, all those types of support aspects. But we really believe our work starts day plus one, not day minus one.

How are we working with our customers after this is turned on by monitoring, to know exactly what they are doing, giving them proactive support and communications, when we need to, when we see them either switching back or we have a distribution of a specific customer group or end user group within their company? We'll be actively monitoring them and pushing that forward.

That’s what we really think it’s about. We're taking this end user customer-centric view to roll out our applications, but letting our own customers find their own pathways.

Organic path

Gardner: If users want to go more mobile in how they do their business processes, want to get those reports and analytics delivered to them in the context of their activity, is there an organic path for them or do they have to wait for their IT department?

What do you recommend for people that maybe don’t even have Ariba in their organization? What are some steps they can take to either learn more or from a grassroots perspective encourage adoption of this business revolution really around total user experience emphasis?

Haydon: We have plenty of material from an Ariba perspective, not just about our solutions, but exactly what you're mentioning, Dana, about what is going on there. My first recommendation to everyone would be to educate yourselves and have a look at your business -- how many millennials are in your business, what are the new working paradigms that need to happen from a mobile approach -- and go and embrace it.

The second lesson is that if businesses think that this is not already happening outside of the control of their IT departments, they're probably mistaken.

The second lesson is that if businesses think that this is not already happening outside of the control of their IT departments, they're probably mistaken. These things are already going on. So I think those are the kind of macro things to go and have a look at.

But, of course, we have a lot more information about Ariba’s total user experience thinking on thought leadership and then how we go about and implement that in our solutions for our customers, and I would just encourage anyone to go and have a look at You'll be able to see more about our total user experience, and like I said, some of the leading practice thoughts that we have about implementations (see a demo).

Gardner: I'd also encourage people to listen or read the conversation you and I had just a month or two ago about the roadmap. There's an awful lot that you're working on that people will be able to exploit further for total user experience exploits. 

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